One clarification, "leading software" should have been "leasing software". Sometimes my fingers don't go where I tell them :)

CB

On 6/9/16 12:07 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Good points, Chris.

I've long felt that upgrade shouldn't need to be free.  If a developer works to 
build new features into their software, they should be able to charge for them. 
 Then I as the consumer can decide whether those upgrades matter to me or not.  
If they do I simply pay for the upgrade.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:57 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

My only concern is that leading software can lead to some developers slacking 
off if they have their app pretty much working correctly. Back in the day 
people kept upgrading computers and apps because the new ones were faster and 
the apps had lots of new features. At some point the computers got fast enough 
that I'm not really itching for new hardware all that often and certain apps 
have pretty much all the features I care about. Whats an app developer to do if 
I think their existing version works just fine? No more revenue. Say they make 
a word processor and have pretty much got all the basics down. I'm not as 
interested in paying a monthly/annual fee just to keep using it as is. Sure it 
would be nice to have the new xyz feature that lets me handle some obscure task 
easier but, for the most part, I'm already set.

Maybe it's a generational thing. I like to own my media and not pay a monthly 
fee for streaming and I like to own my apps. I don't mind paying a larger fee 
up front and then decide down the road, when I'm good and ready, to pay again 
because the developer has added enough new things that are valuable to me. 
Actually, there are free apps where I wish I had the option to pay and avoid 
all the in-app purchase/advertising junk.

CB

On 6/9/16 10:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
It is true that change is a constant, and that we all have to be able to adapt 
to it.  But that does not mean we should blindly roll over and passively accept 
whatever changes come our way.  If you don't critically evaluate change and 
advocate for what you believe is right, you have no one but yourself to blame 
if you end up with a future that you do not like.  You can't always stop it, 
but you can at least be a voice at the table.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't exactly see how this is a bad thing for users, but keep on keeping on, 
I suppose yes, the ads suck, but it's called change. Everybody needs to adapt.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:

Yep, this is a great thing for the developers, a not so great thing for the 
users.  In my case, if my only choice is to subscribe, I will simply not 
purchase.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:

Daring Fireball (which, I think it’s fair to say, is a PR arm for Apple) just 
published this. Link:
http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/the_new_app_store 
<http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/the_new_app_store>

Thank God ads are only in the States, for now.  But it, and the whole concept 
of subscription pricing, is a disappointment to me, and not what I buy Apple 
for.  Still, it fits in pretty nicely with a lot of the other recent things 
Apple have been doing, so I probably shouldn’t be surprised.  It’s just a 
shame, is all.

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