Well, Chris, you were right about one thing. For some people, (me for example) Pro Tools would be way way over kill. After all, what am I going to do with all that sample and instrument stuff if all I want to do is take scratches out of records and hiss out of tape? Answer, so far as I am concerned, is absolutely nothing. I use a combination of Sound Forge Pro for Mac, Amadeus Pro and RX 2 plug ins for that stuff. Is that combination perfect, no way. The two things I lack with that set up are as follows.
1. The ability to vary pitch instead of abruptly adjusting it. 2. The ability to extract the center of a stereo image and isolate it, or, the ability to remove the center of a stereo image and fully preserve the left and right sides of the stereo image as a true stereo image. Sure, Audasity can do that: but please man oh PLEASE, that’s crap because the stereo image gets destroied in the process and is not preserved. The few plug ins I have found seem not to be accessible with Voice OVer at all. IF you or anybody out there got any ideas, I await them. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! > On May 23, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Let me make it very very clear on something, as I do not wish to give false > information. I'm probably not the one you want to be talking to when it > comes to Logic, as honestly, I have to say I'm more on the side of the fence > with Anders than with Cara, with all due respect. No hard feelings are > intended against Cara, so make that very very clear. If Logic works for her, > and for others, then great, but in a setting where I'm being paid on an > hourly basis, or sometimes only have X amount of time booked in a studio > which I take my Logic rig into, I don't have time to sit here and do > work-arounds. I need to produce no-nonsense music/production and get it done > in a timely manor. I agree that there are lots of work arounds, but that's > just it. they're work arounds. I need something more rock-solid. > > I love the samples that come with Logic, no doubt, but at this time, I'm > sorry to say, it cannot be my DAW of choice primarily. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara Quinn" <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > To: "'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for OSX > > > Hi Anders, > > I’m not sure what you mean by saying that Logic is not being furthered in > accessibility. While there are still issues with it, it is absolutely usable > and all of its instruments are accessible now with Voiceover. > > When I say usable, it is absolutely possible to create a project, mix and > master it in Logic and do so efficiently and accessibly as Logic stands now. > > the accessibility issues I see really depend on what you may wish to do with > your project. If you need to convert a drummer track into standard midi for > example, so you can have specific midi control over an individual drum sound > in a preset auto-drummer kit, then you may run into an accessibility issue, > however, there is a work-around. so even something as specific as this, which > the average customer may not need, is actually doable. > > So if you have not taken a look at Logic lately, you may wish to revisit it. > > You may be impressed at how accessible it actually is at this point. > > There are some very good Logic resources on the web, including the > http://www.blindlogic.org site and the Logic Accessibility email list and I > believe that our own Chris Gilland has also done some tutorials for Logic as > well. > > Hope this helps and please do have a lovely day! > > Cheers! > > Cara > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On May 22, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > > Hi! > One thing that annoys me is that logic isn’t getting further beeing > accessible. > Of course i could get reaper but what i want is logic with all its > instruments and such. > This might sound very strange for you guys who seem able to afford such tools > as protools. > But i don’t want to spend all my income per month on a musical creation tool. > I just can’t. > Sure if i had money i’d buy that but i have to face reallity. > /A >> On 20 May 2016, at 14:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Scott, >> >> I'll be really honest with you. You know what I use hardware wise as far as >> an interface? I just use a little 4 channel Alesis Multi-Mix 4. Aside from >> it having USB interface, the whole rest of the thing is totally analog. >> It's absolutely beautiful! And, they're dirt cheap, too! Plus, as far as >> accessibility with the mac, just to keep this on topic, there's nothing to >> be accessible about it! It just works. I had an M-Audio Fast Tracks C400, >> which again was 4 channels, as I recall, but the control pannel software was >> totally! inaccessible with Voiceover. I know a lot of blind people, like >> Brian Howerton, etc. who really, and I do mean, really! know their stuff who >> are using the Focusright Sapphire Pro lineup of interfaces and flipping >> swear by them! I've never asked them how accessible the control pannel >> configuration utility is for them, although, I hear that supposedly with >> Voiceover, it's pretty rock solid. >> >> As for a control surface, obviously, the Apogy is really really killer, but >> then, for most average home consumers just getting started, as myself, who >> are more low end professionals, it would probably be overkill. Well, and, >> plus, they're like, 5 grand, so, ehh, um, werpse? ee yeah. Now, Digidesign >> back in the days, made a gorgeous! and I do mean, gorgeous! interface that >> also was combined as a control surface, and it's software was phenominally >> accessible! That was the Digi03. Oh God! that thing was sweet! >> Unfortunately, it's not made anymore. I would freaking kill! for one a >> those things though! And, back when they were around, they were only like, >> $130 or so. Right now, I'm using a presonus Faderport for the control >> surface. In logic, or Reaper, forget it! I never could get the darn thing >> to work. I tried and tried, but it just! will, not do it. For all intense >> and purpose, the software that comes with it is accessible, although there >> really isn't much anything useful in it that you'd really wanna do. It's >> mainly just a driver. You can update its firmware, which is totally >> Voiceover friendly, but that's about it. I mean, that's about it, period. >> I don't mean that's all that is accessible. I'm saying, that's literally >> all the software really does, so nothing to really write home about. It >> does work though. In ProTools however, this device works almost, if not >> totally, perfectly. I think there were maybe one or two buttons I had to >> remap, but for the most part, I'd say 99 percent, it worked right out of the >> box. I don't even remember initially installing the driver. You can, yeah, >> but it's really not necessary. >> >> Anyway, this is kind of very very gradually starting to veer from the topic >> of the mac and Voiceover, so let's try to be really careful with this >> thread. I don't wanna be the enemy here of allowing it to go OT. We're not >> there yet, but I fear it's on its way there. LOL! I think for now, we're >> OK, but I'd just be careful, as admittedly, this kind of is a bit of a grey >> area. >> >> Chris. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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