Let me make it very very clear on something, as I do not wish to give false
information. I'm probably not the one you want to be talking to when it
comes to Logic, as honestly, I have to say I'm more on the side of the fence
with Anders than with Cara, with all due respect. No hard feelings are
intended against Cara, so make that very very clear. If Logic works for
her, and for others, then great, but in a setting where I'm being paid on an
hourly basis, or sometimes only have X amount of time booked in a studio
which I take my Logic rig into, I don't have time to sit here and do
work-arounds. I need to produce no-nonsense music/production and get it
done in a timely manor. I agree that there are lots of work arounds, but
that's just it. they're work arounds. I need something more rock-solid.
I love the samples that come with Logic, no doubt, but at this time, I'm
sorry to say, it cannot be my DAW of choice primarily.
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Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for
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Hi Anders,
I’m not sure what you mean by saying that Logic is not being furthered in
accessibility. While there are still issues with it, it is absolutely usable
and all of its instruments are accessible now with Voiceover.
When I say usable, it is absolutely possible to create a project, mix and
master it in Logic and do so efficiently and accessibly as Logic stands now.
the accessibility issues I see really depend on what you may wish to do with
your project. If you need to convert a drummer track into standard midi for
example, so you can have specific midi control over an individual drum sound
in a preset auto-drummer kit, then you may run into an accessibility issue,
however, there is a work-around. so even something as specific as this,
which the average customer may not need, is actually doable.
So if you have not taken a look at Logic lately, you may wish to revisit it.
You may be impressed at how accessible it actually is at this point.
There are some very good Logic resources on the web, including the
http://www.blindlogic.org site and the Logic Accessibility email list and I
believe that our own Chris Gilland has also done some tutorials for Logic as
well.
Hope this helps and please do have a lovely day!
Cheers!
Cara
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On May 22, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
Hi!
One thing that annoys me is that logic isn’t getting further beeing
accessible.
Of course i could get reaper but what i want is logic with all its
instruments and such.
This might sound very strange for you guys who seem able to afford such
tools as protools.
But i don’t want to spend all my income per month on a musical creation
tool.
I just can’t.
Sure if i had money i’d buy that but i have to face reallity.
/A
On 20 May 2016, at 14:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Scott,
I'll be really honest with you. You know what I use hardware wise as far
as an interface? I just use a little 4 channel Alesis Multi-Mix 4. Aside
from it having USB interface, the whole rest of the thing is totally
analog. It's absolutely beautiful! And, they're dirt cheap, too! Plus,
as far as accessibility with the mac, just to keep this on topic, there's
nothing to be accessible about it! It just works. I had an M-Audio Fast
Tracks C400, which again was 4 channels, as I recall, but the control
pannel software was totally! inaccessible with Voiceover. I know a lot of
blind people, like Brian Howerton, etc. who really, and I do mean, really!
know their stuff who are using the Focusright Sapphire Pro lineup of
interfaces and flipping swear by them! I've never asked them how
accessible the control pannel configuration utility is for them, although,
I hear that supposedly with Voiceover, it's pretty rock solid.
As for a control surface, obviously, the Apogy is really really killer,
but then, for most average home consumers just getting started, as myself,
who are more low end professionals, it would probably be overkill. Well,
and, plus, they're like, 5 grand, so, ehh, um, werpse? ee yeah. Now,
Digidesign back in the days, made a gorgeous! and I do mean, gorgeous!
interface that also was combined as a control surface, and it's software
was phenominally accessible! That was the Digi03. Oh God! that thing was
sweet! Unfortunately, it's not made anymore. I would freaking kill! for
one a those things though! And, back when they were around, they were
only like, $130 or so. Right now, I'm using a presonus Faderport for the
control surface. In logic, or Reaper, forget it! I never could get the
darn thing to work. I tried and tried, but it just! will, not do it. For
all intense and purpose, the software that comes with it is accessible,
although there really isn't much anything useful in it that you'd really
wanna do. It's mainly just a driver. You can update its firmware, which
is totally Voiceover friendly, but that's about it. I mean, that's about
it, period. I don't mean that's all that is accessible. I'm saying,
that's literally all the software really does, so nothing to really write
home about. It does work though. In ProTools however, this device works
almost, if not totally, perfectly. I think there were maybe one or two
buttons I had to remap, but for the most part, I'd say 99 percent, it
worked right out of the box. I don't even remember initially installing
the driver. You can, yeah, but it's really not necessary.
Anyway, this is kind of very very gradually starting to veer from the
topic of the mac and Voiceover, so let's try to be really careful with
this thread. I don't wanna be the enemy here of allowing it to go OT.
We're not there yet, but I fear it's on its way there. LOL! I think for
now, we're OK, but I'd just be careful, as admittedly, this kind of is a
bit of a grey area.
Chris.
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