I also read that one could spill coffee or liquid on these new braille displays and they would still work as they are very tough and rugged meant for outside. I may be lucky to view one of these displays soon so if I do, I’ll report back.
About the Freedom Scientific, you can clean the cells as you can go in to the tools menu or press the on button and the last two cell routing buttons when the display has no power and the pins go up. Just in case no one knew that. One of the reasons why I chose the displays I don’t know if any other displays do this. I’m a bit out of touch with what displays do these days. Kawal. > On 15 May 2016, at 04:38, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote: > > I wonder how these new displays stack up to what we have now, besides having > a lower price? For some uses, having them louder and/or slower might not > matter too much, but for work situations, something making constant noise > during brake time while the press ctrl-alt-del prompt flashes cells up and > down wouldn't be cool. When I remember, I usually pull the cable from the > display end on my Focus 40 Blue during brakes as to not overwear the same > particular cells that would get a ton of extra exercise flashing needlessly. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Kawal Gucukoglu <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> >> To: Macvisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 1:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Apple store now stocking accessibility items >> >> There is a new braille display coming out, don’t know when but it’s a joint >> project between RNIB and other specialist providers. I’ve read that these >> braille displays are going to cost £250 (not sure that will be in dollars) >> but these displays are going to be affordable for any person who is on a low >> budget and this will be a game changer. It will have bluetooth as well. At >> present they are in prototype and were at the Seasun exhibition which >> happened in March. Did anyone see those? These are intended to be sold >> that more people will take up braille and encourage people to read. >> >> I know I’m not talking about Apple here but they will specifically work with >> the I phone as Third world countries have the I phones but blind people >> can’t get hold of braille devices. >> >> Kawal. >>> On 14 May 2016, at 18:11, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net >>> <mailto:br...@hostany.net>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm in the same boat there, I use the reverse panning feature when I use >>> the braille display, at least in Jaws where it is available. I'm sure that >>> is something FS could include in a firmware update to put in that >>> configuration menu to send the command for right pan when you hit the left >>> button, etc. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <doniado...@me.com >>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: Apple store now stocking accessibility items >>> >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> VU stands for Vario Ultra, the newest display from Baum. And just FYI, one >>> of it's features is multiple options for configuring how the panning keys >>> behave. I can't remember all the choices off-hand, but I'm pretty sure you >>> could set it up to pan the way you describe. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>>> On May 13, 2016, at 2:59 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu >>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I tend to agree with you, Donna. >>>> >>>> By the way, what is a VU? You wrote that you like that your VU is >>>> completely silent. >>>> >>>> As for me, I am a big fan of the Focus 40 Blue. >>>> >>>> One thing I cannot stand about using the Focus 40 Blue, in iOS >>>> particularly, is that one cannot switch the panning keys. >>>> >>>> Currently, although this was not always the case, one could use the left >>>> panning keys to advance the Braille display. Now, one can only use the >>>> right panning key to move right and the left panning key to move left. >>>> >>>> I, however, read Braille with my right index finger. In so doing, I much >>>> prefer to pan with my left hand, only. As it stands, I must now read and >>>> pan with my right hand. This causes an enormous amount of fatigue. >>>> >>>> In Windows, using Jaws, there is a reverse pan feature, thank goodness. >>>> >>>> I say all this to say that my next Braille display purchasing decision >>>> will be based on whether or not the device has a hardware, rather than a >>>> software, feature to allow reverse panning. >>>> >>>> If any of you know of such a device, please let me know. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:40 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: Apple store now stocking accessibility items >>>> >>>> Oh, and in answer to your question, Sabahattin, IOS devices are already >>>> pretty bloody close to replacing a notetaker, at least for me. But I >>>> think it may have come as close as its ever going to. First, it would >>>> have to have built-in braille, not something paired by bluetooth. I turn >>>> on the device and up comes the braille. There would have to be no lag >>>> between the device and the braille. I love that my VU is completely >>>> silent. If I wake up in the middle of the night and want to read, I just >>>> pick it up and turn it on. And since I was probably in my book in the >>>> Word Processor when I turned it off, I come right up to the place I left >>>> off when I last put it down. Easy peasy. >>>> >>>> It's funny, as I write this, it occurs to me that for me, having a >>>> notetaker is sort of my equivalent of having a Kindle or a Nook. And I >>>> know sighted people who have both a smart phone, and a reading device. >>>> It's really just a reading device, and sometimes a quick note-taking >>>> device. I like that it's separate from my phone. My reading will never >>>> be interrupted by any game, Facebook, text message, phone call, or one of >>>> the myriad of other alerts I might get from my phone. This is also why I >>>> have a separate iPod. There's nothing on it but my music and audiobooks, >>>> for the same reason. If I'm listening to music, I don't want the chatter >>>> from my phone cutting into it. Don't get me wrong, I love that my teeny >>>> tiny phone can do all this stuff. And there've been plenty of times I was >>>> very happy that that was the only device I needed to have with me, and it >>>> could keep me connected, entertained, and provide me with reading and >>>> music pleasure. But when traveling light is not an issue, I prefer doing >>>> these things on separate devices. Our phones are great, but boy they do >>>> make a racket. :) >>>> >>>> Just my thoughts. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On May 13, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I really dislike the FS braille displays, but did applaud their efforts >>>>> to go more mainstream than their Humanware rival on the notetaker front. >>>>> Inevitably, though, I stuck with BrailleNote because their most important >>>>> function, note-taking and braille translation, remained unparalleled in >>>>> my opinion, and above all things a note-taker must do is to be efficient, >>>>> which is another area Humanware really excel at and have done so right >>>>> through the Apex, which I now have. Now they’re going Android, there is >>>>> even more promise there, except for Google and privacy of course, and the >>>>> fact that it’s running a two-releases-outdated version of Android. I >>>>> also much prefer the thumb keys and elegant design of Humanware braille >>>>> displays to the fiddly alternatives. 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