I thought I remember back in those early days that it was recommended to turn
that preference on if you were going to use VO. I think some of that kind of
thing might come down to a copyright thing to make sure that only blind people
can use the app. If they use the api's directly instead of making a normal app,
they can make sure the wrong people hopefully don't use it, but then if they
don't have a login and password, there'd be no way for them to download.
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From: Chris Gilland
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Question about Learning Alley L A Book Manager
Normally, yes, I’d agree. The only reason I don’t agree with you in this one
case is, I think it’s needing to somehow grab API’s from both Voiceover and
from, most likely, Apple Script. It can’t do that though being those are
different components than what are built into the app to start with. For this
reason, OSX is actually doing you a favor by not allowing it by default.
I see where you’re coming from, trust me, I do. Again, in most 99.999 cases,
I’d agree with you whole heartedly.
I’d beg to say in this case though, it’s most likely a harmless thing. Now,
that also being said, why Learning Alley in the first place thought they had to
make the app this way? I’m sure there is a reason we don’t get, but I agree it
seems a little odd.
Anyway, I’m not the programmer, so who am I to judge?
Chris.
On Jan 24, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
This was a change made in Yosemite announced in summer 2014. It is
inexcusable that there is not at least a daw listing this change. I also
consider this a security risk that this needs to be enabled.
Jonathan Cohn
On Jan 7, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess it'll take a lot of people to call the attention to the techies
over there to keep up with all the devices blind users like to work with.
Sharon H.
On Jan 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I just renewed my Learning Alley membership, as I've not been current
now for quite some time, probably since 2011. A lot seems to have changed
since then.
I see that they have a mac version of the Learning alley Book Manager.
I know it's not necessary for downloading books, but if I want to play them on
my mac, I'll need it, no doubt, being the books are incrypted.
After installing the book manager, and launching it, I get a message
saying I need to go into System Preferences, and then tab down to the checkbox
to enable access for assistive devices within Universal Access. Well,
obviously, there is no such thing in El Capitan as Universal Access. Yeah,
under System prefs, there is the accessibility payne, but even under there,
none of the categories within the table give you the option to allow access to
assistive devices. I definitely do see 3 buttons in that message given by the
Book Manager. I have an option to continue anyway, to quit, or of corse, to
open System Prefs, which does absolutely no good in this case.
If I elect to continue anyway, then I'm given to items on the screen
of which both just say unknown, and interacting with them does entirely
nothing. I can't even access About window to tell you all what version of the
manager is running. Again, I just get two unknowns. I don't honestly even
think the About window is even popping up, period.
Yes, this is the most recent version of the software. It has to be, as
I just downloaded it from the Learning Alley web site this morning.
Suffice it to say, if L A can't get their crap together more than this,
I'm probably gonna cancel my membership. When I called their support, they
were incredibly unhelpful. They told me they had no user guide for the mac
client, which I later after looking myself found out wasn't true. The pdf for
the guide however is only images, with no text. Therefore, I'd have to find a
way to O C R the blasted thing.
When I called and asked to speak to someone who was in tech support
that could help me with the mac side of things, they not only said they were
doing away with the mac software eventually, but that they had no one on staff
at all either in office or not who knew Voiceover, and for that mind, not only
this, but they'd never even heard of Voiceover and didn't even know it existed.
Finally, after some research, the lady I spoke with came back on the line and
goes, OK, sir. You're running OSX 10.5 Leopard, right? I'm like, uh... Not?
freaking, hardly! Try El Capitan 10.11.2! She's like, oh, I didn't realize
they'd come out with something so much newer.
Needless to say, I'm not even slightly! impressed.
I'd be incredibly curious if anyone of you all have gotten the manager
to work, and if not, then how the hell are you playing your books on the mac,
or do you simply not. Yeah, I have both my IPhone, and my Nexus 6, and both on
the Apple side of things with Voiceover, as well as on the Android side with
Talkback, things in both cases seem to work quite well, but it would be nice to
not always have to rely on a mobile device just to listen to things. Ya know?
Yeah, I also do have my Bard Enhanced NLS player, but again, I might not always
want to rely on that thing.
Suggestions, aside from the obvious of screaming at the top of my lungs?
Chris.
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