As I said, I went to the app store, searched for El Capitan, then in the search 
results, I clicked on El Capitan, then install.

Chris.

> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> how did you get the full installer?
> 
> 
> On 12/9/2015 12:12 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
>> Let me clarify what I meant by "Manual update."  All I did was to search the 
>> mac app store manually from the toolbar for El Capitan, find it in the 
>> search results, and then manually click on install rather than letting 
>> Software Update find it for me.
>> 
>> Nevertheless, it's about 5 or 6 gigs, give or take.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> how big is the manuall updater for the latest version of oSX?
>>> 
>>> On 12/9/2015 11:57 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>   Like I said, it could have been a few different things or could have 
>>>> simply required waiting a bit to try to check for updates. The important 
>>>> thing is you are up and running with 10.11.2.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     As for the manual download, you can get any software from the 
>>>> Apple.com website from the support page. Just do a search for the manual 
>>>> updater for El Capitan.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
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>>>> Director
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> John,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I definitely only have one Apple ID, and it was already signed in.  that 
>>>>> said however, I did sign out and back in.  I don't recall if I rebooted 
>>>>> or not, though with my level of tech skill, it wouldn't surprise me if I 
>>>>> did.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanar...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Strange problem with latest update
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I’m assuming you had already gotten up and running with 10.11.1 before 
>>>>> you tried the update? I probably would have signed out of the Mac App 
>>>>> store, rebooted the system and then signed back into the store just to 
>>>>> see what would occur. There are a couple of factors, but that would 
>>>>> depend on there own factors as well, such as Apple ID’s being used, ETC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>>>> 
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> 
>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This isn't really a big deal per sé, but it does have me a little bit 
>>>>>> curious.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a white polycarbon mid 2010 13 inch macbook, which has El Capitan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For some reason, my mac got really really sluggish, and was practically 
>>>>>> locking up every second I'd turn my head.  I ran all the necessary disk 
>>>>>> and permission repairs etc.  Nothing at all seemed to be helping.  My 
>>>>>> suspicion is that I had an app installed which was really bogging down 
>>>>>> the system, although even looking through Activity Monitor, it was a 
>>>>>> little hard to determine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For this reason and a few others, I went ahead and bit the bullet by 
>>>>>> simply just repartitioning the drive, wiping it, and starting clean.  
>>>>>> The weird thing is, I noticed when I went to the mac app store to 
>>>>>> download El Capitan, so I could use Disk Maker X to create my bootable 
>>>>>> media, I noticed that 10.11.2 was available, although, I only had 
>>>>>> 10.11.1.  Weirdly enough, though I am not on any beta, private nor 
>>>>>> public at this given time, and though I'm not currently even enrolled 
>>>>>> with this mac for the beta in the first place, Software Update simply 
>>>>>> put, would not, try as I may, let me install nor download the 10.11.2 
>>>>>> update.  It kept telling me no updates were available.  I say it's not a 
>>>>>> big deal, as I simply just went the manual route, and manually 
>>>>>> downloaded it, but why would it be there in the app store, yet Software 
>>>>>> update not see it?  To me, that makes entirely no sense.  Yes, I have my 
>>>>>> security settings configured in System Prefs to notify of OS updates, 
>>>>>> and never have I had an issue like this previously.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It just has me a bit bathled.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any ideas?  As for the post news of this message, LOL, I did manage to 
>>>>>> get 10.11.2 installed from the manual download/install I performed.  I 
>>>>>> also have found that things no longer are sluggish at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris.
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