No question about learning the Mac is stupid. I did the same thing: fought with it off an on for a year while using Windows, then finally had to use the Mac when NVDA completely stopped working thanks to a bad speech driver back when Nuance voices first came out. Once I got the hang of it in those few weeks, I stayed with it, and now I dread the days I have to work with Windows for family or clients. Don't forget that, right on the homepage of AppleVis.com, we have a link to a bunch of resources for getting started with the Mac--podcasts, guides, and the like. > On Sep 19, 2015, at 19:39, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > Last year when I first got the Mac, I used the help feature and did go > through some of the tutorials. Some of it made sense and a lot more of it > just made me feel lost. Over the last year, I confess, I reverted back to > Windows since I can do things so much better and faster than on the Mac. My > reason for buying the Mac Book was & still is that I expect this Windows > computer to crash within a year or two. The last 2 to 3 > Windows computers I have owned have all had problems that were not > repairable. Out of disgust I decided I wanted to learn how to use the Mac > before it becomes an emergency situation. So, a year later here I am still > struggling to try and make sense of the layout and how things work. I know > its ridiculous and I’m left just feeling really stupid!! > > So, sorry for all my very basic questions. I will re-visit the help like you > suggest. Thanks. > > Eileen > > From: Phil Halton <mailto:philh...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:47 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Dropbox on Mac (was: Scanning text on the MAC) > > Eileen, one of the very best and most up-to-date tutorials on how to use > voice over resides right there on your Mac in the help system. Press VO plus > H to bring up the voiceover help system and arrow down until you see > QuickStart guide. Press vo enter on that and you will be brought into the > tutorial which is in the form of an HTML document segmented into chapters. > When I first got my mac I read that tutorial voraciously until I understood > most all there was to know about voiceover. It really is an excellent guide > on how to use the Mac and if you read through it you'll be an expert in no > time. > Good luck > > Sent from my IPhone > > > > On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> > > wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > Thank you all who responded to my questions. I have DropBox downloading > > now on the Mac. I have been using it for a while on Windows to share files > > with another group. Its a matter of my learning how to use it on the Mac. > > > > Currently, I am reading through the Tim Sniffen book, but I find he does a > > lot for Zoom, and I’d find it easier if there was more of a focus on VO and > > would rather learn more keyboard commands. I’ll try to learn as much as I > > can from the book … anything that will help. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Eileen > > > >> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > >> > >> That link will download the software. Once it downloads, go to Finder, > >> press cmd-option-l, and arrow down to the just-download file. Press cmd-o, > >> and follow the prompts. Eventually, you'll sign into Dropbox, and that's > >> it. Thereafter, Dropbox will be just a folder in Finder like any other, > >> and you can use it like any other folder. You'll almost never need to > >> change anything or adjust any settings. I'm hoping KNFB Reader eventually > >> adds support for iCloud Drive, but Dropbox will work for now. Let me know > >> if you run into problems with this, and remember that you can install > >> Dropbox on Windows until you get more comfortable on the Mac. > >>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:37, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dropbox for the Mac can be found here. > >>> > >>> <https://www.dropbox.com/downloading?os=mac> > >>> > >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >>> Many believe that we have been visited > >>> in the past. What if it were true? > >>> > >>>> On 9/19/2015 7:29 AM, Eileen Scrivani wrote: > >>>> Hi Alex, > >>>> I do have an IPhone that has the KnFB software on it and I do use it. > >>>> The issue that comes to mind is that in processing mail, I keep records > >>>> of bills & payments and keep files on my Windows 8 computer. > >>>> If I were to scan important mail with the KnFB app on the IPhone then > >>>> after saving information to a file/document, I am uncertain about > >>>> transferring information to either my Mac Book Pro or Windows 8 computer > >>>> for the purpose of record keeping. I have already installed DropBox on > >>>> my phone, but now need to figure out how to get it on the Mac Book. It > >>>> is the one piece to the puzzle I am still uncertain how/where to find > >>>> software and download and install on the Mac Book. > >>>> I’ve looked in Itunes & the App Store, but only see items for either > >>>> Iphones or Ipads. > >>>> Everything I do on the Mac is a major learning curve and by the time I > >>>> get one little thing figured out how to accomplish I walk away with a > >>>> major headache! I'm half kidding & half serious about that last > >>>> statement. > >>>> Thanks for any ideas on a workable solution to what I am trying to > >>>> accomplish. > >>>> Eileen > >>>> *From:* Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 8:31 PM > >>>> *To:* 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>> *Subject:* Re: Scanning text on the MAC > >>>> The two popular ones are Prizmo ($50--don't bother with the $100 > >>>> version) or Abbyy Fine Reader. Both seem to do well, though I haven't > >>>> compared them side by side. If you have an iOS device, I have to say > >>>> that I find the KNFB Reader app to be more convenient and just as > >>>> accurate, especially now that it has a stand mode. > >>>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 19:03, percygarrett <percygarr...@sw.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Can anyone recommend scanning software, a scanning app or program for > >>>> the MAC Mini? My snail mail and other printed documents are stacking up. > >>>> Thanks for all recommendations. > >>>>> Percy Garrett > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera" > >>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> > >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 4:48 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing > >>>> left and right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :) > >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels > >>>> <william.wind...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello all, > >>>>>> this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the > >>>> original question. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I thought that the quicknav letters on a webpage only should work > >>>> when the cursor isn’t in a interacted edit-field. > >>>>>> So, I thought that I could combine the quicknav keys on a webpage on > >>>> one side and type anything I want in interacted edit-fields when I am > >>>> interacted with that field. > >>>>>> If this is what it should be, I have found a bug I think. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ok, I can set off the quickness keys on the quicknav section of the > >>>> voiceover program but if it goes automatic, it’s much better ;) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> thx for your comments, > >>>>>> William > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Op 17-sep.-2015, om 19:01 heeft Christina C. > >>>> <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I also cannot type in text fields when quick nav is on. I believe > >>>> in the voiceOver Utility under commanders/quick nav, there is a check > >>>> box that says "Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick > >>>> Nav.” You can try unchecking this if you do not like to use single key > >>>> navigation. This feature is probably what does not allow you to type in > >>>> text fields on webpages. I use single key navigation a ton so I leave > >>>> this option on. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Good Luck, > >>>>>>> Christina > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>> 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