Chris, I don't know, I almost did not listen to your issue, since you spent 10 minutes proving what version of the OS you were on. Also, while you went into extreme detail about keystrokes used and why, you barely listed settings within VoiceOVer that might effect selection. Also, It was quite unclear what your goal was. (select an item from album view and use the contextual menu on that item.)
As somebody who receives accessibility reports and scripts JAWS to resolve issues found, I do appreciate a full list of instructions to reproduce, but often it is my knowing the problem screen and a description of the goal of the actions is all that I need to resolve the issue. Listening to 30 minutes of description to get to that nugget is expecting a lot out of somebody who is expected to resolve several bugs each day. So, perhaps on your next submission you can attempt a such a summary. Also, providing a counter-example of a similar application that works as you expect the one causing grief might help your report as Apple does attempt to have consistent User Interfaces. My first message on this thread, you might have ignored, since my text was at the bottom of the message. But I did ask you if you had tried the VO-Ener keystroke to select an item. Let's hope your input is handled in the next release of iTunes! Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan Cohn > On Aug 30, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I sent this exact message to Apple Accessibility along with the mp3. I'm > honestly not the most hopeful, but we'll see. Normally, in the past when I > wrote them, I usually would get a very generic e-mail. Thank you for your > concern, we'll look into it, bye bye. > > Maybe this time, since I included an mp3, they'll take it more seriously. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray Foret Jr > To: Mac Visionaries List > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 6:14 AM > Subject: Re: Really weird issue with ITunes accessibility > > Observed exactly the same blasted thing as you did. I think it's high time > Apple hired some of us to get on their accessibility dev team to prevent > stupid stuff like this. > >> On Aug 29, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Guys, this is just strange. I'll explain this problem to you all in a >> second, but here's an mp3 for you where I actually demonstrate this. >> Hopefully, if my write up makes no sense, the recording will help. >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/weird-itunes.mp3 >> >> If you all prefer to actually be able to download this file rather than it >> just openning and playing, then use this link instead: >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/weird-itunes.mp3?dl=1 >> >> If you'd like a Sendspace link instead, just let me know and I can get it >> uploaded there instead. >> >> Anyway, so here's briefly the deal. I have Apple Music, but not ITunes >> Match. What I am finding is, when in my music locally on my drive, and I'm >> in album grid view, If I interact with the album grid, then vo+left, right, >> up, or down arrow through the grid, even though Voiceover is reporting the >> albums within the grid, they are not physically getting >> selected/highlighted. For this reason, if I need to open the details of an >> album with vo+space like I could do in ITunes 12.2.1 or lower, I can't do >> so. There is a work around though. If I route the mouse pointer with >> command+VO+F5, then I VO+Shift+Space on the album of choice, it will select >> that album, and open up its details in the scroll area. Of course then, if >> I don't really need the album details opened, I can just hit the escape key >> to collapse the details slideout. You night wonder why this is such a big >> deal. It's not per sé, as much as it's very confusing from a Voiceover >> perspective if you don't know ahead of time that you have to now do it this >> way. For new beginner Voiceover users, I could see this driving them >> practically crazy! I'm quite an advanced Voiceover user, and it took me on >> quite a goose chase to figure out, so I can't imagine for beginners how >> irritating this would be. The other downside is, you now seem to have to >> click, open up the details, then close them with the escape key in order to >> select the album before you can hit the delete key on the album to remove >> it, or for that mind, before you can vo+shift+M on the item to get your >> context menu. It just seems for us Voiceover users like way more of a >> hastle than it needs to be by far and away. >> >> Anyway, if this doesn't make sense, then go grab that mp3 I linked to above, >> and I think then you'll understand better what I'm getting at. >> >> Have a blessed day. >> >> Chris. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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