I sent this exact message to Apple Accessibility along with the mp3.  I'm 
honestly not the most hopeful, but we'll see.  Normally, in the past when I 
wrote them, I usually would get a very generic e-mail.  Thank you for your 
concern, we'll look into it, bye bye.

Maybe this time, since I included an mp3, they'll take it more seriously.

Chris.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: Mac Visionaries List 
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 6:14 AM
  Subject: Re: Really weird issue with ITunes accessibility


  Observed exactly the same blasted thing as you did.  I think it's high time 
Apple hired some of us to get on their accessibility dev team to prevent stupid 
stuff like this.


    On Aug 29, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Guys, this is just strange.  I'll explain this problem to you all in a 
second, but here's an mp3 for you where I actually demonstrate this.  
Hopefully, if my write up makes no sense, the recording will help.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/weird-itunes.mp3

    If you all prefer to actually be able to download this file rather than it 
just openning and playing, then use this link instead:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/weird-itunes.mp3?dl=1

    If you'd like a Sendspace link instead, just let me know and I can get it 
uploaded there instead.

    Anyway, so here's briefly the deal.  I have Apple Music, but not ITunes 
Match.  What I am finding is, when in my music locally on my drive, and I'm in 
album grid view, If I interact with the album grid, then vo+left, right, up, or 
down arrow through the grid, even though Voiceover is reporting the albums 
within the grid, they are not physically getting selected/highlighted.  For 
this reason, if I need to open the details of an album with vo+space like I 
could do in ITunes 12.2.1 or lower, I can't do so.  There is a work around 
though.  If I route the mouse pointer with command+VO+F5, then I VO+Shift+Space 
on the album of choice, it will select that album, and open up its details in 
the scroll area.  Of course then, if I don't really need the album details 
opened, I can just hit the escape key to collapse the details slideout.  You 
night wonder why this is such a big deal.  It's not per sé, as much as it's 
very confusing from a Voiceover perspective if you don't know ahead of time 
that you have to now do it this way.  For new beginner Voiceover users, I could 
see this  driving them practically crazy!  I'm quite an advanced Voiceover 
user, and it took me on quite a goose chase to figure out, so I can't imagine 
for beginners how irritating this would be.  The other downside is, you now 
seem to have to click, open up the details, then close them with the escape key 
in order to select the album before you can hit the delete key on the album to 
remove it, or for that mind, before you can vo+shift+M on the item to get your 
context menu.  It just seems for us Voiceover users like way more of a hastle 
than it needs to be by far and away.

    Anyway, if this doesn't make sense, then go grab that mp3 I linked to 
above, and I think then you'll understand better what I'm getting at.

    Have a blessed day.

    Chris.


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