sounds like an argument between the free-speechers and the would-be
do-gooders.
my ancestors said, "Never wish for a new Tsar."
I monitor this list for my blind grandchild. While brilliant and a
talented musician, her hand disabilities make it difficult for her to
use a keyboard. ag
On 8/26/15 8:27 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
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Hey Donna,
I'm going for exactly that, efficiency. I've had over 50 subscription
requests which I think says a lot to what people want.
I've ran this idea by Chris. He's not really even willing to fully
moderate Chris gilland, so I don't think this is going to work. I
think he's just worried about stepping on Cara's toes should she
decide to return. As I've said, my idea isn't to rule with an iron
fist. You all can do whatever you like as long as you are nice to
people. I think that's a good enough guideline. That would elimenate
so much of the arguing I have to dig through here to find information.
The gems shouldn't be hidden under a pile of trash on any list like this.
On 8/26/2015 8:10 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Scott, as you know I'm basically in the same camp as you. When I
modded the AIphone list, I was frequently criticized for being too
lax. and i completely agree about the delete key and it's
incredible value. :) However, unless you decide just not to read
certain people's emails, you do end up slogging through a lot of
unnecessary junk, which few of us have time to do. So, we all know
who the problematic posters are. If someone were to say to them,
either shape up or ship out, it would make the list much more
efficient, which I think would be a good thing. Cheers, Donna
On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Scott Granados
<scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
See this is where I differ although I think you make very valid
points and as a side note I like your posts and automatically
gave you more weight when I saw you digitally signing messages
and using strong cryptography.:)
I would say that who cares if someone curses. I in general think
people are way way to thin skinned, especially on mailing lists.
My thinking is that there’s a delete key for a reason and further
more if that’s to much effort do to the volume there are built in
rules that can automatically send whom ever you’re annoyed with
to ground and remove your personal need to see them where as
others may wish to filter differently. For some reason though
some people need this filtering to be done for them but in the
end I always come down on the side of lack of moderation. As I
said, that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla, different
choices for different folks.
Keep doing what you’re doing though, I know there are multiple
ways to solve the same problem.
Thanks for the response.
On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Littlefield, Tyler
<ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote:
Hello Scott, There's a vast difference in overly moderating and
moderating of those who make the community unpleasant for others.
For example, should someone receive an email cursing at them (which
happens here pretty frequently), the problem gets solved with a
moderation. Should it continue, said individual is removed from the
community.
I'm not proposing that overly prolicing makes a difference, just
that it's possible with an active list owner to create a community
conducive to a place where people can ask questions and provide
help, etc. Can you imagine how much cleaner our inboxes would be (I
myself am somewhat at fault here, as I've said) if we were to
mostly elimenate all the side bickering? On 8/26/2015 7:46 AM,
Scott Granados wrote:
I’m not sure moderation = good community. That’s like
saying policing = a good community and I’d dare say the
folks of Ferguson or South Carolina would disagree with
that assertion.;)
You bring up a good point I’m just wondering is the
tightening of the rules going to necessarily translate in
to better content. It might but it’s hard to get enough
people to switch and keep the same value when there’s
already a critical mass of people here.
Good luck though, as one of my favorite talk radio hosts
used to say before he passed away “that’s why they make
chocolate and vanilla” something for the different
viewpoints.
On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Littlefield, Tyler
<ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote:
Hello: A lot of people have had numerous problems on this
list.
My last response on this list was cursed at and nothing is
being done to stop it. As a result of the
spam/cursing/general throwing of fits, I created a new list
where rules can be enforced and we can have a good
community. On 8/26/2015 2:46 AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via
MacVisionaries wrote:
Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on
26/08/2015 at 05:29:
Hi, sorry but, maybe I lost something. Why a new
list? What is going to happen to this one? Thanks.
Gabriel.
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