Hey Grant. The thing that I was trying to say is that the alerts thing only 
works if you have notifications show up as alerts. If you have them show up as 
banners, they won't automatically speak if Voiceover's turned off.

Shawn
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> On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Shawn, the setting in the dictation and speech preferences to speak alerts 
> is separate from VoiceOver, so it should work whether or not you have 
> VoiceOver running. If it doesn't, I'm not sure what may be going on.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grant
> 
> On Aug 23, 2015, at 9:35 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris. I still use Growl because 1, that built in feature you speak of to 
> automatically read alerts only reads alerts and 2, There's no way to my 
> knowledge to have notifications from the notification center speak 
> automatically if someone turns off Voiceover like I do when I'm doing 
> something in VMWare Fusion or playing RS Games. Also in new versions of Skype 
> due to them stopping support for Growl, in my experience Voiceover doesn't 
> read incoming IMs sometimes when in the chat window. That's why having Skype 
> 6.15 and Growl is a good combination. Also I have Growl set to work with 
> Night Owl to read my tweets automatically since Voiceover doesn't handle 
> having multiple tweets thrown at it in the notification center. Also, until I 
> can find an accessible weather client to replace Menuweather or Orbis as it's 
> called now, Growl and Omnigrowl will have to do.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you go into system preferences, then speech and dictation, then go to the 
>> text to speech tab, there is a checkbox to automatically speak incoming 
>> alerts.  So, I'm ever so slightly confused.  Is there really much of a need 
>> for Growl anymore, being that this feature has seemed to be directly 
>> implemented directly into OSX?
>>  
>> Sorry, if I'm missing something here.  Honestly, I've not used Growl in 
>> ages, and when I did, I found it to be incredibly annoying.
>>  
>> Chris.
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>>> Have downloaded the above app. 
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>>> Does the program have to be open so I can get push notifications from 
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