thanks for this as well.. I am still using fusion 6.something, however. Not sure if that would make a diff.. Cait
> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi grant, > I was just getting prepared to answer Caitlin’s question when I noticed > something in the remapping window. I noticed that in addition to Insert being > a choice in the “to” combo box, there is also a choice for “caps lock”. Could > it be that we can remap the accent key (or some other key) to transmit a > “caps lock” instead of settling for “insert”? > I never noticed the caps lock list item before and have not tried to use it > in my VM. But, I imagine that having a screen reader to use caps lock as the > modifier as most do, and then remapping accent to caps lock in the fusion > method should work as well as the insert key? Don’t you think? I’m using the > latest Fusion and perhaps its something new in this version? > I’d be interested to know if this is the case. it would eliminate the need > for sharpkeys on the windows side. > It would also eliminate the need for changing the modifier key in the windows > screen reader to use insert instead of caps lock. > > BTW: in the latest fusion, it doesn’t seem to be necessary to mouse click > on the insert choice. I just stopped interacting twice and that got me out > of the box and the choice stuck. > > > >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Grant Hardy <grant.li...@icloud.com >> <mailto:grant.li...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> >> Caitlin, >> >> Here are the steps for the Fusion-only way, based on instructions I’ve >> written previously to the list. It’s been a while since I’ve used this >> method, but I think these instructions still apply. >> >> Press CMD+COMMA to open preferences from within VMWare, and select the >> “keyboard and mouse” section. Be sure you are editing the right profile, >> then choose the “key mappings” tab and hit the add button. >> >> Once you enter the dialog to add a new key mapping, you can do a couple of >> things. It’s best to navigate the dialog with VO+LEFT and VO+RIGHT rather >> than the TAB KEY, otherwise VMWare could interpret the TAB KEY as the key >> you want to remap. >> >> The two controls which VoiceOver calls combo boxes can actually be typed >> into as well. So, as an example, let’s say you want to remap the GRAVE >> ACCENT KEY to act as an INSERT KEY. That’s far from ideal, of course, but >> since it is just one key above the caps lock key, which is normally the >> screen reading key, this is an okay compromise if you don’t want to use >> other third-party software. in the first combo box that asks what key you >> want to remap, if you just push the GRAVE ACCENT on the keyboard, it should >> take. In the second combo box, use VO+SPACE to expand the list, find INSERT >> by using VO+LEFT and RIGHT, move the mouse pointer there with VO+COMMAND+F5, >> then perform a click with VO+SHIFT+SPACE. That’s it, your choice should be >> saved. Stop interacting once, find the OK button and activate it, and you >> should be done. Ensure the “enable key mappings” checkbox is checked as well >> on that page, then close out of preferences with CMD+W. >> >> If this is still not working for you, start up the virtual machine where >> you’re having problems and hit CMD+E to open the preferences window for the >> virtual machine. Activate the keyboard and mouse button, and make sure the >> same profile you just edited in the previous step is selected. >> >> The insert key is generally not treated exactly the same way as the caps >> lock key by Windows screen readers, leading to possibly undesirable key >> mappings. You might be able to install SharpKeys and remap insert to caps >> lock, but I’ve not had success trying this. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Grant >> >> On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com >> <mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I’d like the steps in remapping the insert key within fusion using just the >> fusion way, please. >> >> I thought I had done this, but it doesn’t seem to be sticking. >> >> thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> possibly the easiest way around the caps lock problem is to set nvda, or >>> JAWS, to use the insert key as its modifier. Then in fusion key remapping >>> preferences, you can set a key like the grave accent to instead produce an >>> insert key. Then, essentially, the grave accent key which is just above the >>> tab key will serve as the nvda modifier key. >>> This method does not require the use of any other software like sharpkeys >>> and the like. >>> Personally, I use sharpkeys to set the grave accent key to act as the caps >>> lock and have JAWS set to use the caps lock as modifier. However, I have >>> used the fusion insert key method as well with equally good, if simpler, >>> results. >>> Remapping the insert key in fusion settings is a bit tricky, but can be >>> done without too much trouble. If you go that route, I or someone else can >>> walk you through the process. >>> >>>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com >>>> <mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Bill again, >>>> >>>> I've found the post from Grant - one of the list members - outlining the >>>> steps you need to take to use capslock key successfully in fusion on a mac >>>> computer. I assume you use a mac computer although having read your >>>> message again, I see you say "windows" keyboard. So I'm not sure whether >>>> gRant's message is going to relevant. I'm pasting his message in quotes >>>> below. Maybe you could contact him via the list if what he says will not >>>> work or you need further help. I know it's a headache. Look for the >>>> quoted message below my signature. >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> "Hello all, >>>> >>>> I am very happy to report that I have found a solution to give Windows >>>> complete control of the CAPS LOCK KEY while using it in a VMWare virtual >>>> machine. I now have full use of my CAPS LOCK KEY while using Windows in >>>> VMWare. For example, with JAWS, I can use it as my JAWS KEY, and I can >>>> press it twice quickly to toggle CAPS LOCK on or off. While I was willing >>>> to settle for using another key like the GRAVE ACCENT KEY as my screen >>>> reading key, or even to map my CAPS LOCK KEY to an INSERT KEY, I wanted to >>>> see if I could find a solution that would allow the CAPS LOCK KEY truly to >>>> be passed through to Windows. The reason is primarily because screen >>>> readers don't always treat the CAPS LOCK KEY identically to how the INSERT >>>> KEY is treated, even while using a dedicated laptop layout. In JAWS, for >>>> example, there are many key mappings which are different, such as INSERT+8 >>>> (open the keyboard manager) as opposed to CAPS LOCK+8 (perform a left >>>> mouse click). While JAWS key mappings can be changed, and while I love >>>> using VMWare Fusion and find it very efficient, I really wanted my >>>> keyboard to work in a more familiar manner. >>>> >>>> If anybody is wondering whether the CAPS LOCK KEY can be passed through >>>> directly, the answer is yes, and here is my solution. The short version is >>>> that in Mac OS X, we’ll be mapping the CAPS LOCK KEY to something entirely >>>> different. Then in the VM, we’ll install SharpKeys and map that different >>>> key back to CAPS LOCK. While this sounds a little crude, it’s the best >>>> solution I’ve come up with thus far and really isn’t too complicated to >>>> set up if you know your way around Mac OS X. The irony is that while you >>>> have this configured, you won’t be able to use CAPS LOCK within Mac OS X >>>> itself. It will only work when working with your virtual machine. You can >>>> select text then choose “Make upper case” or “Make lower case” to >>>> compensate for this. These options are located in the menu bar under Edit >>>> > Transformations. >>>> >>>> 1. Open up System Preferences. Select the Keyboard button, then the >>>> Modifier keys button. Change CAPS LOCK to “no action” then hit OK and exit >>>> out of System Preferences. >>>> >>>> 2. Download and install Seil from https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/seil.html >>>> <https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/seil.html>. It is a small app that lets >>>> you customize the functionality of the CAPS LOCK KEY as well as some >>>> other, international, keys. I believe this software is reputable, but I >>>> definitely understand and share the hesitation that many will feel about >>>> installing an app from outside the App Store that you may never have heard >>>> of. >>>> >>>> 3. Once installed, open the Seil app from your applications folder. You >>>> can navigate through this app by tabbing around. Find the tree of >>>> settings. At the top you will see text that says, “expand tree, then >>>> change settings and change key codes”. Arrow down and the first group >>>> within the tree view should be “change the CAPS LOCK KEY”. Expand with a >>>> RIGHT ARROW then DOWN ARROW to the first and only setting you need to >>>> change, “change the CAPS LOCK KEY”. Reassign the caps lock key to >>>> something else. I assigned it to key code 110. This is the "super key" in >>>> Linux or the "applications key" in Windows. Since my Mac doesn’t have this >>>> key anyway, this shouldn’t cause any other key conflicts and I think >>>> should be a safe bet. Tab to the checkbox that indicates you want this >>>> setting to be applied and check it, then TAB to the edit box and enter the >>>> appropriate keycode, 110 in my case. You can now close the window with >>>> CMD+W. >>>> >>>> 4. Now, whenever you press the CAPS LOCK key in Windows it will open up a >>>> context menu. This is not what we want, so go ahead and install SharpKeys >>>> to your virtual machine from https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com >>>> <https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/>. It is very easy to navigate. Open it >>>> up. Reassign "special@_Applications Key" to caps lock, and hit the write >>>> to registry button. Then reboot the VM or log out and back in. Voila, you >>>> now have full use of the CAPS LOCK KEY within Windows. >>>> >>>> 5. You should easily be able to undo this change in Seil if desired. >>>> >>>> Sorry that this was so long winded but I wanted to provide a reasonable >>>> amount of detail for those interested. It may well be that somebody else >>>> has a much more brilliant solution than mine. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> Grant >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Grant" >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 25 Mar 2015, at 16:00, Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:bill32...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> Running Windows 7 in Fusion with a Windows keyboard, I cannot seem to use >>>>> the caps lock key as an NVDA modifier. I have the setting enabled. Does >>>>> NVDA not see the caps lock key in a Fusion Window? 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