Hi, Normally, I’ve found when this sort of thing happens in Preview, it is when Preview is already open. That is, the Preview app is open with either no active windows or with any number of active windows. So, I usually quit Preview and then re-open it by opening the specific pdf file. This will usually make it so that the static text is now pdf text and readable by VO. Not sure why it happens this way, but it does. A reminder that the MacOS behaves differently than Windows when closing things. Closing windows within an app like TextEdit, Preview, Pages etc, just closes the window, not the app whereas, in most cases, closing, at least with alt-f4 in Windows, loses the window and quits the app.
HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 12, 2015, at 18:05, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: I have had to start using Nisus Writer Pro to read PDFs as I no longer find Preview usable. Interestingly I can no longer find the scroll area you describe. I have experimented with single page and continuous scroll view but might appear to work. I find is something called PDF content group, if I interact with that all I find is something call static text. If I interact with that I simply get an error sound if I try and reading or navigation commands. David Griffith > On 12 Feb 2015, at 17:24, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > typically I find that i have to interact twice in the scroll area to get at > the text. Once there I can use the VO reading commands like VO + arrow keys, > or VO + function + command down / up for sentence and VO + function + shift > + up/down arrow for paragraph. > This pertains to files I open from the finder, and not from within the mail > program, but I don’t think that should matter much. > > >> On Feb 12, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Angus MacKinnon <floda...@gmx.com >> <mailto:floda...@gmx.com>> wrote: >> >> I clicked on a PDF in OS 10.9. 5’s Mail. I keep getting to double quote. and >> can not get to the text. How does a person read text in preview? >> >> Angus MacKinnon >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.