Hi Kevin,

Kevin Gibbs wrote:

>
> How do you tell whether the file is using plain text or rich text?
>
The settings in the preferences file for each application determine  
the default format when you create new documents, so using the  
shortcut key combination Command-comma to show the preferences will  
give you information on all the default settings that are being used.   
In TextEdit, the first tab of the preferences file describes the  
settings for a "New Document" and the very first setting are the  
selections for document format as plain text or rich text.  In mail,  
the selection information about whether you are composing using a rich  
text or a plain text message format is given on the "Composing" tab of  
the Mail preferences pane (so again, you use Command-Comma to show the  
preferences and in this case navigate to the "Composing" tab to view  
the options.)

Of course, the user can change from the plain text to rich text format  
for any particular document by using the Format menu options.  One way  
to tell whether the file is using plain text or rich text -- for  
example, if this isn't a new file that you're editing but one that  
someone has sent you, or maybe previously saved, or if you don't know  
what your preference settings are -- is simply to navigate to the  
Format menu on the application's menu bar (VO-M, then press "F O" or  
use your arrow keys).  When you arrow down into the menu options like  
"Make Rich Text" or "Make Plain Text" will only exist if your file is  
initially plain text (in the first case) or rich text (in the second  
case).

I keep my preferences options for TextEdit set so that a ruler is  
always displayed when possible (check the box for "Show Ruler" on the  
first "New Document" tab -- I believe this is the default setting,  
although you can choose to hide the ruler).  Since the ruler is only  
visible in rich text mode (when you choose to have it displayed), you  
can tell that your TextEdit document is in rich text mode if, when you  
VO-Up arrow from the body of the document, you find the ruler instead  
of just the close button of the window as May described.

Finally, there is a very good description of the document formats and  
the different options in the "Help" menu description for TextEdit.   
For an extensive description of how to use the Help menu (with an  
example using a list reader's question for a different app), please  
see my recent post in the archives:

http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg11063.html
(TIP: How to use Help and Google Searching to learn about your Mac)

HTH

Cheers,

Esther


HTH

Cheers,

Esther


> From: May McDonald
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:40 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: double spacing
>
>
>
> Ah, thank you very much.  I didn't know that part, smile.
> On 16-Oct-09, at 8:40 AM, Esther wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi May,
>>
>> TextEdit has two formatting modes: plain text and rich text format,
>> and you can switch between them from the Format menu on the menu bar,
>> or by using the shortcut key combination, Command-Shift-T, to toggle
>> between plain text and rich text or vice versa.   Automatic double
>> spacing is only supported in rich text format, which is where the
>> ruler appears that has the paragraph and line spacing button, and
>> which is also the only mode that supports style file selections.   
>> Your
>> file is using plain text formatting.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> May McDonald wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi there.  This doesn't work.  When I select the text I want and  
>>> then
>>> do vo up it says close button.  Nothing about the ruler. On
>>> 13-Oct-09, at 10:11 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Select the text you want set to double-space (Command-A if you want
>>>> all of the document). Then VO up to move to the Ruler and interact
>>>> with that. VO-right about 5 times to reach the paragraph and line
>>>> spacing menu button. VO-space to pull down the menu and then VO- 
>>>> down
>>>> to navigate to double or Other if you want something else and then
>>>> space to pick it. I did have some problems when I had the mouse
>>>> pointer tracking the VO cursor. Turning that off in the Voiceover
>>>> utility (VO-F8) seemed to clear that up. Without that change, just
>>>> about the time I got to the menu and went to pick double space my
>>>> focus would get yanked back to the text area. Weird.
>>>>
>>>> CB
>>>>
>>>> May McDonald wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What about in text edit?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> May, sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2009-10-13, at 9:32 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello May,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Pages, as long as you already have text in the document, show
>>>>>> Inspector (Command-Option-I). Then make sure you're not
>>>>>> interacting
>>>>>> with anything and go to the top left corner of the window (VO-FN-
>>>>>> Left
>>>>>> arrow). You'll hear "Document Radio Button". Navigate right to  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fourth button, Text, and select it. Keep navigating right until
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> hear Line, then twice to the right and you can type in the
>>>>>> figure 2
>>>>>> for double spacing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:40 PM, May McDonald wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good morning everyone.  I need some help.  I have a paper that I
>>>>>>> need to finish but can not find any place to change the layout  
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> double
>>>>>>> spacing either in text edit or pages.  Can someone please help,
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
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