I honestly don't know what you're doing that's giving you all this trouble, but I can tell you that I use fusion Windows 7 and Mac without any trouble. I have remapped my grads accent key to be the Jaws modifier key, or the NVDA modifier key if that's what you use. I used the windows application called sharp keys to do the remapping. Sharkeys is a little funky and a little confusing at first, but it works fine once you do it. Other than this there is no reason why fusion shouldn't be working for you. Many dozens of people at least on this list are using windows with fusion and they don't report any problems same as you were having. I wish I could help you more, but I just don't know what to tell you. If you're using a standard install a fusion and you've installed windows, then you need only to remap a key for a modifier key for your screen reader and then you should be fine. You can also with infusion settings set some key to be an insert key and then tell your screen reader to use the answer key. I've done that as well. I hope I understand correctly you're having trouble with certain keys not being passed to Jaws that seem to be getting grabbed by Mac or vice a versa. That would be a problem within the global key Settings of fusion. If you look around in those settings, and truly understand what how they work, then you should be able to clear that up without any difficulty. Don't give up on fusion just yet. Once you get it working you'll be glad you stuck with it. I wish I could help you more but I just can't.
Sent from my IPhone > On Aug 22, 2014, at 7:31 PM, gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm thinking about abandoning Fusion and using Bootcamp because I have not > found a way around the conflicts with OS X and JAWS laptop keyboard layout. > Is there anyone who has found a solution for Fusion > that allows *all* the JAWS keys to be sent to JAWS and not captured by OS X? > > Sure, you can use Capslock + T to read the windows title. However, I cannot > use many of the keys on the right side of the keyboard in conjunction with > capslock to perform many JAWS functions essential for full JAWS usability. > > I need full access to JAWS with Fusion or none at all at this point. I > really really hate to resort to Bootcamp because the attractiveness of using > the Mac hinges upon use of a virtual machine for Windows for me. I need both > and full access to both with the Macbook Air keyboard. I do not want to have > to connect an external keyboard each time I need to use Windows. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Also, > > You may want to consider using Keyremap4macbook and its PC counter part. > I use this to turn my capslock key on the Mac into VO keys and on the virtual > machine it turns my caps lock into a insert key for PC screen readers. > > Just another option to consider. > > Eric Caron > > >> On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Kliphton Senior <m.kliph...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> That is correct. You can download it on the mac, but it will have to be >> installed on windows. >> >>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona >>> <hank.smith...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> if memory serves it is a windows app >>> hth >>> Hank >>> >>>> On 8/19/2014 9:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: >>>> Is sharp keys a mac app, or something you download once in the vm? >>>> Thanks! >>>> Cait >>>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Senior <m.kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's why I prefer the sharp keys way. >>>>> >>>>> Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV? New user and want quick >>>>> efficient answers? Or maybe you know apple products and want to >>>>> contribute? >>>>> Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are >>>>> always >>>>> patient with you. >>>>> Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com >>>>> All are welcome! >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Taylor >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:15 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Couple of points here. Firstly, if you delete all the built in keystrokes, >>>>> you have to do a lot of finger contortions that you don't actually need to >>>>> do, given that the mac keystrokes are much easier to reach than the >>>>> windows >>>>> ones. I would advise people to keep them, they can actually come in really >>>>> handy. Secondly, and more importantly, if you swap the windows and alt >>>>> keys >>>>> round in Windows, how can you command-tab away from Fusion, as command is >>>>> now alt, so would give you the alt-tab keystroke in Windows? Yes, it >>>>> takes a >>>>> little getting used to the fusion arrangement, but it gives you far more >>>>> flexibility than doing this remapping does. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Aug 2014, at 11:57, Kliphton Senior <m.kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Below is what I found in my collection of mac tutorials. >>>>>> Mapping keys in fusion >>>>>> >>>>>>> First off, it is true that you have no insert key on the mac, while >>>>>>> you >>>>>> often >>>>>>> do need one in windows. You can create a key mapping for yourself in >>>>>>> 1 of >>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> ways. Either using fusion itself, and there is no real down side as >>>>>>> far as >>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> aware, but it is a little tricky to set up because of an interface >>>>>>> issue >>>>>> in >>>>>>> fusion. The other way to get an insert key is to use the sharp keys >>>>>> program. >>>>>>> Sharp keys lets you remap a few more keys than fusion will allow. For >>>>>>> example, using sharp keys, you can even remap your right command, or >>>>>>> your right option key, to the windows insert. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you do it via fusion, then all your virtual machines will get an >>>>>>> insert >>>>>> key. If >>>>>>> you have windows 7 and xp like I do, creating the insert key using >>>>>>> the >>>>>> fusion >>>>>>> keyboard remapper creates it for all virtual machines because fusion >>>>>>> only allows you to do it inside its global preferences, command >>>>>>> comma, and not on a per machine basis, command e. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you create your insert key using sharp keys, then it is going to >>>>>>> be a >>>>>> local >>>>>>> setting for that windows installation only, because sharp keys >>>>>>> modifies >>>>>> the >>>>>>> windows registry to do the trick. Both methods will give you the same >>>>>>> result: an insert key that is not just insert, but that can be held >>>>>>> down >>>>>> as if it >>>>>>> were a modifier key for other keys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This answers your other issue, where caps lock cannot be used inside >>>>>>> the virtual machine as a modifier. It works as a caps lock, but you >>>>>>> can't >>>>>> hold it >>>>>>> down and press a letter inside the virtual machine, in order to give >>>>>>> commands to your screen reader. Sharp keys and fusion itself though, >>>>>>> will give you an insert key like the one on a normal windows >>>>>>> computer. This >>>>>> lets >>>>>>> you use insert rather than caps lock for your screen reader's >>>>>>> commands, so let's concentrate on insert, and I will leave caps lock for >>>>> someone else. >>>>>>> Now, let's look at the way you can do it inside fusion. I'm using >>>>>>> fusion >>>>>> 3.1.3, >>>>>>> which is the latest version as of today. To update, go to the menu >>>>>>> bar in fusion, vo m, then once right, then down to check for updates, >>>>>>> and then follow the instructions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, fire up fusion and, just to be certain, have your virtual >>>>>>> machines >>>>>> shut >>>>>>> down. Then press command comma to open fusion's global preferences. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the top of this window is a toolbar. Interact with it and click >>>>>> keyboard and >>>>>>> mouse. A new window will appear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The first thing you will encounter is a pop up button where you >>>>>>> choose >>>>>> your >>>>>>> keyboard and mouse profile. The window itself consists of 4 tab >>>>>>> sheets, >>>>>> and >>>>>>> all those settings together are stored in a keyboard and mouse >>>>>>> profile. I don't think we will ever need a second profile, but that's >>>>>>> what the button allows. Leave it at its default. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The first tab sheet of this dialog, named, key mappings, is where >>>>>>> you can swap your windows logo and alt keys. By default, fusion will >>>>>>> map your command key to the windows logo key, and your option key to >>>>>>> the windows alt key. This is not very intuitive for those of us who >>>>>>> are used to >>>>>> windows >>>>>>> and its keyboard layout, but it's easy to swap them. See below. In >>>>>>> this window, you will also be able to create your insert key inside >>>>>>> fusion, and >>>>>> if >>>>>>> you want, give yourself a numb lock toggle as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you look at this table, then many mac keys are mapped to some >>>>>>> windows counterparts. Personally, I don't think that is necessary at >>>>>>> all. For >>>>>> example, >>>>>>> in windows, you use control plus c to copy an item to the clipboard. >>>>>>> On >>>>>> the >>>>>>> mac, we're used to pressing command plus c to copy. In fusion, there >>>>>>> is a default key mapping that makes command c the equivalent of >>>>>>> control c. In other words, pressing control c or command c in windows >>>>>>> will do the same thing. This is non-standard windows tweaking I don't >>>>>>> like, so what I did >>>>>> to >>>>>>> begin with, is clear this entire list. To the right of this table, >>>>>>> you >>>>>> have 2 >>>>>>> unlabeled buttons. The left one is add, and the right one is delete >>>>>>> and >>>>>> entry >>>>>>> in this table. Just focus on the right button of the 2, and hit vo >>>>>>> space >>>>>> until >>>>>>> the list is empty. You will also delete the undesired alt and windows >>>>>>> logo key mappings this way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, you must create your own mappings, so that your mac command key >>>>>>> will become the alt key in windows, and so that your option key can >>>>>>> become your windows logo key inside windows. Here's how to do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, click add, to add a new mapping to the table. This is the left >>>>>> unlabeled >>>>>>> button, to the right of the table. A new window appears, that you >>>>>>> will >>>>>> later >>>>>>> close with an ok button to return here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the new window, you see your mac modifier keys with checkboxes, >>>>>>> and a combo box for an additional key. For example, you will hear >>>>>>> shift >>>>>> unchecked >>>>>>> checkbox, and command, unchecked checkbox. In this case, where we >>>>>>> want to map our option key to the windows logo key, we don't need the >>>>>>> combo boxes in this dialog, so ignore them for now. Focus on the >>>>>>> from, and the >>>>>> to, >>>>>>> parts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are mapping our option key to the windows logo key. In the from, >>>>>>> area, tick the checkbox for the option key. Leave the rest in the >>>>>>> from for what >>>>>> it >>>>>>> is. Next, find the text that says, to. Here, you will find checkboxes >>>>>>> for >>>>>> the >>>>>>> windows counterparts of the mac key you are mapping. Now take care. >>>>>>> One of those checkboxes will only say, checkbox, without a >>>>>>> description like >>>>>> alt, >>>>>>> or control. It is this unlabeled checkbox that we need to map our >>>>>>> option >>>>>> key >>>>>>> to. On the screen, this checkbox, in the to, field, is an icon with >>>>>>> the >>>>>> windows >>>>>>> logo key. So tick that box. Finally, proceed to the okay button and >>>>>>> press >>>>>> it. >>>>>>> You will return to the command comma, toolbar item keyboard and mouse >>>>>>> screen, where you pressed the unlabeled add button. your first key >>>>>>> mapping, is in place. Option is now windows logo as soon as the >>>>>>> virtual windows machine is active. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, repeat the same procedure for your alt key. So, click add, then >>>>>>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> from, field, tick command, then in the to, field, click alt, and >>>>>>> press >>>>>> okay. >>>>>>> Now that you know how to remap keys, you can do the same thing for >>>>>>> your insert key. However, this is where it is a little tricky and you >>>>>>> will soon understand why. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As above, again click the add button in this dialog. Reminder: we >>>>>>> came >>>>>> here >>>>>>> by starting fusion, then command comma, then keyboard and mouse from >>>>>>> the toolbar, then the first tab sheet named key mappings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After the remapper dialog with the from, and to, field, appears >>>>>>> again, do >>>>>> the >>>>>>> following to create your insert key. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the from, field, you need to choose which key on your keyboard is >>>>>>> going to loose its function for windows, and act as your new insert >>>>>>> key. Leave >>>>>> all >>>>>>> the checkboxes for the modifier keys like shift, option etc alone, >>>>>>> and >>>>>> focus >>>>>>> on the combo box with voiceover. Once focus is on this field, >>>>>>> assuming you have keyboard focus track your voiceover cursor, as is >>>>>>> the voiceover >>>>>> default, >>>>>>> then you can now input the key you wish. I use the accent key, just >>>>>>> below escape on the mac keyboard. Press it, or press your own choice, >>>>>>> and you >>>>>> will >>>>>>> hear it spoken by voiceover. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, because this is a combo box, it does have a few presets, >>>>>>> and >>>>>> you >>>>>>> can reach them with vo space. However, once you do this, you cannot >>>>>>> get out of the box anymore with vo right or anything, because that >>>>>>> keystroke too, will be interpreted as the key combination you are >>>>>>> going to map. So, my advice is not to go through the 13 presets of >>>>>>> this combo. Instead, >>>>>> never >>>>>>> open it and just type your desired insert key replacement, once the >>>>>>> voiceover cursor and keyboard focus is on the combo box in the from, >>>>>> field. >>>>>>> Don't open the combo, just type your key when the box is focused. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, focus on the combo box of the to, field. This second combo box, >>>>>>> you do need to open with vo space, because you need to select the >>>>>>> item named insert. However, you should only walk to it with the >>>>>>> voiceover cursor, and you should not press vo space. This is the oddity >>>>> you need to be aware of. >>>>>>> This is because if you press vo space on the insert item in the combo >>>>>>> box, then vo space, as well as all subsequent keys, will be >>>>>>> interpreted as the >>>>>> key >>>>>>> you want to execute when you press accent, and you don't have a way >>>>>>> to close the combo box to get to the okay button. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, after walking to the insert item with voiceover, and the to, >>>>>>> combo box >>>>>> is >>>>>>> still open, you must command tab away from fusion, to have os10 focus >>>>>>> move out of the combo box. Depending on what you had open, you may >>>>>>> land in the finder. Command tabbing away from fusion is the only >>>>>>> keystroke I have found, to get you away from the combo box. Then, >>>>>>> simply command tab back into fusion, and you will find that the combo >>>>>>> box is now closed, >>>>>> and >>>>>>> it is set to insert. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, all you do is go to ok and click it. You will be returned to the >>>>>>> key mapping dialog, where the list of keystrokes can be found. Now, >>>>>>> you should have 3 mappings. One for command to become alt, one for >>>>>>> option and windows logo, and a third for accent, that is now remapped >>>>>>> to insert >>>>>> inside >>>>>>> any fusion virtual machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want to give yourself a num lock toggle, that can be achieved >>>>>>> the same way you created your insert key. Let's say you want to >>>>>>> toggled your num lock with control shift f12. So, first click add, >>>>>>> then in the from, >>>>>> field, >>>>>>> click, for example, the control and the shift box, go to the first >>>>>>> combo, >>>>>> select >>>>>>> f12, move to the second combo in the to, field, and select numlock >>>>>>> from there. Again, don't forget to open the box, walk to numlock, >>>>>>> command tab away and then back into fusion, and hit okay. >>>>>>> This is what you need to do in the first tab sheet of the fusion >>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>> and >>>>>>> mouse dialog, and as I said, it was quite a story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're not done yet. In the second tab sheet, named mouse shortcuts, >>>>>>> you can tell fusion how you want to do a right click in windows. The >>>>>>> mac only >>>>>> has >>>>>>> a normal mouse click, and not a separate left and a right one, so by >>>>>> default, >>>>>>> holding the control key and then pressing the mouse pad, a control >>>>>>> click, will perform a right mouse click in windows, as if you pressed >>>>>>> the >>>>>> secondary >>>>>>> button. Nothing need to be changed here. Of course, you have your >>>>>>> windows shift f10 key combination as the keyboard equivalent of the >>>>>>> right mouse click. Furthermore, you can also create your own windows >>>>>>> applications key, normally near your arrows on a windows keyboard, >>>>>>> the same way you created your alt and windows keys above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The third tab sheet, named fusion shortcuts, can make life a lot >>>>>>> easier >>>>>> for >>>>>>> us, screenless folks. By default, if you're inside the virtual >>>>>>> machine and >>>>>> you >>>>>>> happen to hit f12, f11 or another magic mac key that does something >>>>>>> under os10, then even if you are inside the vm, you will fly out of >>>>>>> it, and land somewhere where you will need to turn on voiceover, >>>>>>> command tab back into fusion, minimize windows with command control >>>>>>> enter, move the voiceover cursor to where it says progress bar >>>>>>> because that's where windows shows up minimized, turn off voice over >>>>>>> with command f5, and finally enlarge windows back to normal with >>>>>>> command control enter, the same keystroke used to minimize windows. A >>>>>>> lot of work, and not funny if you discover that windows no longer >>>>>>> talks and you don't know which key you hit by accident. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, what you do is, turn the checkbox off here that says: enable mac >>>>>>> os keyboard shortcuts. Now, if you accidentally hit f12 or f11, it >>>>>>> won't mess >>>>>> up >>>>>>> things any longer. These keystrokes will instead be passed to >>>>>>> windows, and no longer to os10 disturbing your windows experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the fourth tab sheet of this dialog, named fusion shortcuts, you >>>>>>> can enable and disable a number of key combinations that you can >>>>>>> press when the virtual windows machine is running, that affect fusion >>>>>>> itself. You can mess with these because there is a friendly restore >>>>>>> to defaults button as well. You will find a table here that you can >>>>>>> interact with. On each line, >>>>>> a >>>>>>> key combination is listed, along with a checkbox to enable it. Here's >>>>>>> a >>>>>> few >>>>>>> explained. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Full screen. You need this keystroke, to make windows full screen >>>>>>> when it >>>>>> is >>>>>>> minimized. It is the control command enter to minimize and maximize >>>>>>> windows, as already mentioned. Make sure you have this checked. >>>>>>> There are nine others, and some of them I have turned off, for >>>>>>> reasons explained below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unity: this makes one space out of the windows desktop and the mac side. >>>>>>> So far, I have never used it in daily work, because I can't figure >>>>>>> out how >>>>>> it >>>>>>> works. If you play with it and find out some benefits, please let us >>>>> know. >>>>>> I >>>>>>> have this off, to avoid accidentally dropping into unity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also off are cycle through windows, and cycle through windows reverse. >>>>>>> This is because we can easily do this with voiceover, and I don't >>>>>>> want to loose keystrokes that may otherwise be used for jaws or NVDA >>>>> commands. >>>>>>> Next is hide application. I have this off as well, because if you're >>>>>>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> middle of a windows program and you want help, it is likely that you >>>>>>> begin by pressing alt h to open the help menu. But watch out for this >>>>>>> one, >>>>>> because >>>>>>> if you don't turn off command h for the virtual machine, and remember >>>>>>> that alt and command are now the same key, then instead of opening >>>>>>> the help menu inside your windows program, you will instead hide >>>>>>> fusion completely, and be dropped into os10 where you don't have >>>>>>> speech for the moment unless you turn it on. I fell into this pit >>>>>>> some 5 times until I >>>>>> realized >>>>>>> what might be going on here. Turning this key combination off >>>>>>> resolved the issue. Now, pressing alt h will nicely open the help >>>>>>> menu in windows, and you will no longer be kicked out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next, there is hide others. I have this off, because it does >>>>>>> something to >>>>>> os10 >>>>>>> where I have no speech as long as I'm inside windows, and you want to >>>>>>> let windows get your keystrokes as much as possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The same goes for settings, the next key to turn off, which in fusion >>>>>>> is command e. I hear you thinking. Usually command comma is for >>>>>>> settings. >>>>>>> Correct. However, command comma in fusion opens the general >>>>>>> preferences for all virtual machines and fusion, while command e, as >>>>>>> in echo, opens the settings for your specific virtual machine. How >>>>>>> many processor cores to allocate it, how much ram etc. So, if windows >>>>>>> wants you to press alt e, then you don't want to speechlessly land >>>>>>> into fusion >>>>>> settings. >>>>>>> Rather, you want the alt e command to run in windows. Turn this off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The last key to turn of is command q for quit. Again, we don't have >>>>>>> speech outside fusion so we can safely turn this off, so that command >>>>>>> q, or alt q >>>>>> for >>>>>>> windows, is available to windows and not to fusion or os10. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kliphton >>>>>> ~iMessage&Email~ m.kliph...@gmail.com >>>>>> ~Twitter&Skype~ kliphton72 >>>>>> "Personal blog-read at your own risk!" >>>>>> http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher >>>>>> Hallsworth >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:51 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Remapping keys with VM fusion >>>>>> >>>>>> Well I can do it so yes it can be done. I remember I had to vo-space >>>>>> on the combo box so it becomes a list. You then use standard arrow >>>>>> keys to find the key you want then I think you have to press return. >>>>>> Pretty sure I wrote a guide on this over at www.applevis.com and maybe >>>>>> to this list but can't remember as of now. But I know it can be done >>>>> without apps like Sharp Keys. >>>>>> Christopher Hallsworth >>>>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 17/08/2014 04:58, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> I am trying to remap the caps lock and insert keys without using >>>>>>> sharp >>>>>> keys. I can get to the fusion remapping section, I can interact with >>>>>> the combo box with the additional keys. But when I cursor down to caps >>>>>> lock, or the insert key, no matter how I try to activate it, I get a >>>>>> cap A. 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