Xcode6 is still technically under NDA, which is why I expect MV0Dev has been 
quiet about it. I figure it'll come back to life once things get released 
officially in a month or two.
On Aug 12, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That list seems to go through fazes where it goes dead for a time then comes 
> back to life.  So it could wake back up at some point.
> Xcode 6 is now available to anyone with a free developer account.  Beta 5 has 
> fixed a long standing nasty problem where it would hang if the keyboard focus 
> was moved around a project window when a storyboard file was open.  So it's 
> really not bad to work with at all at this time.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> That's interesting to know. I know some blind folks are doing some
>> development on the Mac platform and when I get a block of some free
>> time, I plan to teach myself how to program for that environment. I'm
>> an experienced programmer on other platforms but I do realize there
>> are some challenges in working with Xcode. I was thinking that list
>> would be a good place to get more specific help in our neck of the
>> woods so to speak. Well, if it is pretty much dead and noone ever
>> processes the pending subscribe requests, I might as well move on. I
>> probably will ask any questions I run into there on this list instead
>> then.
>> 
>> Also, I just learned that iMore has an accessibility forum I might
>> peak at; that might be another resource for us to work with.
>> 
>> I did a direct subscribe request via email this morning but if that
>> also falls flat, then I will probably just give up on that list.
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:02:51AM -0500, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>> There hasn't been anything happening on that list for some time now.
>>> I don't know what it means if anything, but it might be necessary to start 
>>> another one at some point.  It seems to come to life every once in a while, 
>>> so it might just be the nature of that particular topic.  Of course, 
>>> anything on that could always be discussed here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:17 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if there are any other lists where blind developers
>>> might discuss Mac and iOS development? I still never heard anything
>>> from mv-dev and I even tried a second attempt. It must be either
>>> totally closed or maxsed out or something.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 05:52:29AM -0400, Tristan Bussiere wrote:
>>>> It might be worth noting that subscription to the VIPhone list was much
>>>> easier than resubscribing to MacVisionaries, or in terms of the MV-dev 
>>>> list,
>>>> even getting subscribed at all. (My request to join MV dev still hasn't 
>>>> been
>>>> processed.) VIPhone seems to be on an automatic acceptance of 
>>>> subscriptions.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 5:49 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Mac Developers List
>>>> 
>>>> It seems to be a problem that plagues all these lists moderated by the same
>>>> people. If the work load is that bad, there should be more moderators then.
>>>> One shouldn't have to wait 3 months to get subscribed. I had some interest
>>>> in iOS stuff that would be relevant for the VI phone list but with the 
>>>> track
>>>> record of very long waiting periods to subscribe, I just didn't bother. I
>>>> figured most new iPhone questions out on my own.
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Tristan Bussiere <tbussi...@icloud.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Me as well... I applied two months ago on another e-mail address, and 
>>>>> now on my new one, and still no response after about two and a half weeks.
>>>>> I think Cara is just busy. If nothing can be done about it right now I 
>>>>> don't mind.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
>>>>> Hallsworth
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:01 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mac Developers List
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can you help me please as well since I received absolutely nothing 
>>>>> since I tried to join and now I know why. Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 19/07/2014 17:54, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> Could anyone moderating the Mac Developers list follow up on my 
>>>>>> pending request to subscribe? I forget the exact name of the list now 
>>>>>> but it is a developers companion to this Mac ?Visionaries list.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, it has been over 3 weeks since I subscribed via the 
>>>>>> google troups form. I guess that list suffers from moderator lag as 
>>>>>> does this one. <Lsigh>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any help possible?
>>>>>> 
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