That list seems to go through fazes where it goes dead for a time then comes 
back to life.  So it could wake back up at some point.
Xcode 6 is now available to anyone with a free developer account.  Beta 5 has 
fixed a long standing nasty problem where it would hang if the keyboard focus 
was moved around a project window when a storyboard file was open.  So it's 
really not bad to work with at all at this time.


> On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That's interesting to know. I know some blind folks are doing some
> development on the Mac platform and when I get a block of some free
> time, I plan to teach myself how to program for that environment. I'm
> an experienced programmer on other platforms but I do realize there
> are some challenges in working with Xcode. I was thinking that list
> would be a good place to get more specific help in our neck of the
> woods so to speak. Well, if it is pretty much dead and noone ever
> processes the pending subscribe requests, I might as well move on. I
> probably will ask any questions I run into there on this list instead
> then.
> 
> Also, I just learned that iMore has an accessibility forum I might
> peak at; that might be another resource for us to work with.
> 
> I did a direct subscribe request via email this morning but if that
> also falls flat, then I will probably just give up on that list.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:02:51AM -0500, Barry Hadder wrote:
>> There hasn't been anything happening on that list for some time now.
>> I don't know what it means if anything, but it might be necessary to start 
>> another one at some point.  It seems to come to life every once in a while, 
>> so it might just be the nature of that particular topic.  Of course, 
>> anything on that could always be discussed here.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:17 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know if there are any other lists where blind developers
>> might discuss Mac and iOS development? I still never heard anything
>> from mv-dev and I even tried a second attempt. It must be either
>> totally closed or maxsed out or something.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 05:52:29AM -0400, Tristan Bussiere wrote:
>>> It might be worth noting that subscription to the VIPhone list was much
>>> easier than resubscribing to MacVisionaries, or in terms of the MV-dev list,
>>> even getting subscribed at all. (My request to join MV dev still hasn't been
>>> processed.) VIPhone seems to be on an automatic acceptance of subscriptions.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
>>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 5:49 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Mac Developers List
>>> 
>>> It seems to be a problem that plagues all these lists moderated by the same
>>> people. If the work load is that bad, there should be more moderators then.
>>> One shouldn't have to wait 3 months to get subscribed. I had some interest
>>> in iOS stuff that would be relevant for the VI phone list but with the track
>>> record of very long waiting periods to subscribe, I just didn't bother. I
>>> figured most new iPhone questions out on my own.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Tristan Bussiere <tbussi...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Me as well... I applied two months ago on another e-mail address, and 
>>>> now on my new one, and still no response after about two and a half weeks.
>>>> I think Cara is just busy. If nothing can be done about it right now I 
>>>> don't mind.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
>>>> Hallsworth
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:01 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Mac Developers List
>>>> 
>>>> Can you help me please as well since I received absolutely nothing 
>>>> since I tried to join and now I know why. Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/07/2014 17:54, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>> Could anyone moderating the Mac Developers list follow up on my 
>>>>> pending request to subscribe? I forget the exact name of the list now 
>>>>> but it is a developers companion to this Mac ?Visionaries list.
>>>>> Unfortunately, it has been over 3 weeks since I subscribed via the 
>>>>> google troups form. I guess that list suffers from moderator lag as 
>>>>> does this one. <Lsigh>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help possible?
>>>>> 
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