Hi,

The standard emacspeak distribution that comes with Ubuntu, when  
compared with orca or other graphical things, has minimal  
requirements.  I would go so far as to say that you can run emacspeak  
on any hardware on which your favorite GNU/Linux distro will also run  
and hardly notice your resources changing.

Ubuntu makes installing emacspeak very easy, I do not know about other  
distros but the one from GNU itself would certainly do so as well.

cdh

On Aug 29, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> Chris,
>
> What are the requirements for emacs speak?  When last I used emacs  
> regularly on a Ultra-2, I had no need for a screen reader, just  
> setting my fonts at 28 pt and reverse video  (thanks Kyle Jones for  
> the help). I know there is a copy of emacs in /usr/bin and I think  
> it might even be GNU's version. If so what would need to happen to  
> use emacspeak on my Leopard machine and could it interface with the  
> Mac synthesizers or would GNU  ones have to be added.
>
> Jon
>
> On Aug 29, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
>
>>
>>> Hank asked: does that mean orca will die in linux to?
>>
>> cdh replies:
>>
>> The beauty of free software like orca versus proprietary software  
>> like JAWS (for instance) is that although Sun Microsystems has led  
>> the orca development, virtually any hacker or group thereof can  
>> take the source and continue the project.  The nation of Brazil has  
>> elected to standardize all of its government owned and operated  
>> computing devices on free, GNU/Linux operating systems.  They have  
>> two major reasons: the first, they fear that Apple and/or Microsoft  
>> may have built in some code into Windows and OSX to spy for the  
>> American government.  Given the human rights record demonstrated by  
>> Yahoo and others spying for the Chinese government, why not think  
>> that the two biggest OS vendors may be helping out Uncle Sam?
>>
>> With the GNU/Linux OS, they have every line of source code and  
>> their own security personnel can go through one line at a time and  
>> make sure no such code exists before the Brazilian secrets show up  
>> at Fort Mead.
>>
>> The second reason is price.  A GNU/Linux distribution will run  
>> pretty nicely on a clunky, single core, 32 bit used Dell; Snow  
>> Leopard and Windows 7 require pretty hefty hardware to be used  
>> effectively.
>>
>> The orca question comes in as Brazil has laws regarding people with  
>> disabilities that are far stronger than our wimpy ADA and their  
>> laws include explicit language about technology.  So, while Sun is  
>> organizing the project, Brazil and other nations are contributing  
>> hackers to the project to help keep it moving forward.
>>
>> There are a number of other governments making similar decisions  
>> for similar reasons - after our government got caught spying on  
>> Americans, all credibility that we were not spying on everyone else  
>> flew out the window and closed and complicated technology is in the  
>> James Bond book of tricks.
>>
>> Those of us who get to use Macintosh and even Windows with our  
>> screen reader of choice really need to realize just how fortunate  
>> we are.  I spend a fair amount of time in Ubuntu with orca and,  
>> often, emacspeak.  The latter is highly stable and crusty old farts  
>> like me still remember a large portion of the complex emacs  
>> keystroke catalogue.  Orca does a not bad job in a few high profile  
>> programs but, because few developers are coding to the gnome  
>> standard and, therefore, few programs support the excellent gnome  
>> accessibility API, orca gets a lot less "for free" than Macintosh  
>> or Windows.
>>
>> For we who write programs or test systems on GNU/Linux platforms,  
>> it is pretty good as it has fully accessible tools fart in excess  
>> of anything Mac or Windows offer.  For most others who need orca,  
>> though, it is a bit clunky and often unstable.
>>
>> I'd love to suggest that we all walk away from the world of  
>> proprietary software but, developing for niche audiences like us  
>> blinks fails to meet the critical mass necessary to sustain a world  
>> of free software hackers like the server tools, Apache, etc.
>>
>> So, while we love to praise Apple and boo Microsoft, they are  
>> really the only alternatives for blinks who don't want to spend a  
>> whole lot of time fixing their environment.
>>
>> cdh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >


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