thanks very much CDH that looks excellent and really interesting. Best, Dónal
_____ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: 28 August 2009 13:14 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot I'm pretty sure the source code for the GW Java stuff is available for download either at their scripts central page or somewhere nearby. On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi there, at the risk of taking this off topic (and I'm not sure I'm doing so) is the GWJava stuff open-source? It would be very interesting indeed to see how they're doing the communication with the virtual machine. I'm just thinking that it might make a nice final year undergraduate project to port across to OSX. If you'd like to contact me off-list on this one that would be perfectly fine. Dónal _____ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: 28 August 2009 12:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot I've heard from friends at Sun, the people who brought you the Java Access Bridge for Windows and GNU/Linux platforms that there has been a Macintosh version in the works. Since then, though, two major events have changed the landscape: 1. Sun has been acquired by Oracle, a company who, at best, has been lukewarm to accessibility and the Sun powerhouse accessibility team may be starved of funds as Oracle doesn't seem to see it as terribly important. 2. The fellow who, as a volunteer, wrote the newish Window-Eyes Java support code using the very cool GW scripting facility, did so by ignoring the Access Bridge and communicating with the Java VM directly. the GW scripts are profoundly faster than those in JAWS and they include more information in a much more well organized manner. Also, the GW Java is much more stable as the bridge introduced an entire layer of flaky code. I don't know anything about how Macintosh programs communicate with each other but, following the GW lead, I would assume one could build a solution based on the WE scripts as the part that talks to the VM is going to be very similar if not identical. Happy Hacking, cdh On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: Hmm, in the windows world, there was a java access bridge that interfaced between Windows accessibility and Java Swing. Is there anything like that for the Mac? I wonder how hard it would be to port. (I am not a good enough programmer to do this right now.) Jon On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >From poking around it would appear that NeoOffice uses Java swing for the user interface and I suspect the Java swing to apple accessibility API connections are either not wired up or non-existant. I just downloaded NeoOffice and isntalled patch 7 and it was still inaccessible. It defaulted to opening up a text processor document and nothing I typed was read back to me. CB a radix wrote: Hello, I wonder, why is neooffice not accessible? I thought it was a fork of openoffice and even a fork made more for the mac then openoffice. Should it not then be more accesible? Greetings, Anouk, --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
