Hello I am changing the subject so the orriginal thread doesn't get off topic but the mention of garage band braught to mind another question I have been wanting to ask for quite a while what can i use to replace garage band? I am in to music looping, remixing tunes with loops and also making my own stuff with loops Îany suggestions On Aug 4, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> > And for the most part Scott I'm With ya. The two things I can't > defend Apple over though, are when products like Garage band 09 come > out and take a backward step in accessibility, or when products that > have been launched way after VO such as mobile me aren't totally > accessible. If anyone can appease me I'd love to be appeased, or > perhaps if you've got a ton of more technical knowledge and can break > it down into dumby speak I'd love to be tought. At the moment the > best I can come up with is that access isn't nearly as easy for > developers as it's made out to be or surely it'd be there. Either > that or Apple are employing coders who don't follow their own > guidelines. Who knows, either way it really gets my goat when it > happens. > > On 8/4/09, Scott Howell <s.how...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> Although I'm disappointed as well, I am sure they will follow-through >> on getting it done. I think the more noise, the more likely >> attention >> will be given to the issue. At the same time, lets not throw out the >> baby with the bath water. Apple may not have accomplished all we >> want >> today, but quite honestly, they have made a good start and have >> done a >> great deal. What exactly drives the determination as to which >> products get accessibility attention first is probably more a fair >> question. In other words, it seems a a little hit or miss, but could >> be driven by schedule, resources, etc. Oh and no this does not give >> Apple an excuse or let them off the hook, I'm just saying. >> On Aug 4, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: >> >>> >>> At the risk of coming across as slightly standoff-ish, does anybody >>> else think that this situation and reply is a bit of a sham? There >>> wasn't even a mention of iWeb, and both products have been updated >>> recently enough for improvements to be made surely. It's not like >>> these are old smalltime products on a dusty old shelf somewhere with >>> no development time being put into them, Apple markets the hell >>> out of >>> these and makes them into big selling points to buy their hardware >>> and >>> make the switch. It's like "knock knock, who's there, oh it's >>> just a >>> third party developer who doesn't see the need to do anything about >>> access because even Apple themselves don't bother with it that >>> much in >>> their flagship products". >>> >>> Yes it's ranty, no it's not polite and probably it's not productive, >>> but frankly neither am I anywhere near as productive as I should >>> be by >>> now in Mac OS, and Apple not practicing what they preach is >>> becoming a >>> key reason for that. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 8/4/09, Marie Howarth <marie.jane2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I thought you guys might be interested in this response I got from >>>> apple. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com> >>>>> Date: August 4, 2009 6:09:13 AM BST >>>>> To: Marie Howarth <marie.jane2...@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: mobile me and Iweb >>>>> >>>>> Hi Marie: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your interest in MobileMe. As you noted, some >>>>> aspects >>>>> work well with VoiceOver and others need improvement. Because of >>>>> this, Apple is not recommending it for VO users even though some >>>>> features may work well. We are working to enhance MobileMe but do >>>>> not have a schedule or date we can offer. When this situation >>>>> changes, we will be sure to note it on the Apple accessibility web >>>>> page. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 2, 2009, at 7:09 AM, Marie Howarth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I was just wondering as I am using voice over and a trial of >>>>>> mobile >>>>>> me if there were going to be huge accessibility changes in that >>>>>> particular area soon? I have successfully kept my iphone and mac >>>>>> synced with mobile me and have started to use the idisc >>>>>> feature. I >>>>>> would love to pay for a yearly subscription but am a little >>>>>> uncertain whether to do this at this present moment with so many >>>>>> things reading as images on the website and certain features >>>>>> unavailable purely due to an accessibility issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, Iweb would be a great tool for me as I manage several >>>>>> websites. Are there any ways I can use this application at all? >>>>>> Looking at it, it seems like it is not possible to do a lot of >>>>>> things here at the present moment. >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Marie >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
