I have not yet worked on the machines. I forgot that the drives on the  
Unibodies are exposable quite easily in the Macbook. Abaing, I can't  
speak to the unibody pros.

Regards,
Alex,


On 16-Jul-09, at 5:45 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Alex, changing the drive is not any more difficult, other than you  
> have to remove the bottom of the case and it just requires a small  
> philips screwdriver.
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>> I am answering your questions inline just below where they apear:
>>
>>
>> On 16-Jul-09, at 4:32 PM, a radix wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I am very new to apple in general (although I did use an  
>>> ipod shuffle and a rockboxed 5.5g imod i nthe past). I am a 24- 
>>> year old blind law student from the Netherlands and have been  
>>> using computers from a very young age mostly with dos, windows and  
>>> sometimes ubuntu. Recently I became interested in macbook pro  
>>> because I am an audiophile and the macbooks are one of the few  
>>> powerful laptops I know that have optical audio output. But of  
>>> course I was also interested in trying os x since I had read the  
>>> voicover page (although not the manual).
>>> I went to a local apple store yesterda and was rather disppointed  
>>> that I could not seem to use things intuitively as I had  
>>> thought, ...
>>
>> Answer: This is because VO is not a traditional screen reader but  
>> revolutionizes the was AT works, ...
>>
>>
>>> so I mailed apple accessibility who pointed me to the manual and  
>>> this page. Aside from the fact that I thought apple voicover would  
>>> not be usable (and so neither os x) by a blind person right out of  
>>> the box (I am rather independand and besides no one in my vicinity  
>>> knows anything about apple) I was concerned that the screenreader  
>>> was not made by a professional screenreader manufacturer, ...
>>
>> Answer: Apple is a proffessional screen reader manufacturer and can  
>> be concidered such since Leopard's release. What is a screen reader  
>> manufacturer, but someone or some people who know how to make a  
>> screen reader that can be used in every day life. FS and GW Micro  
>> started life small too. Just because Apple's main focus is not  
>> accessibility, does not make them any less professional, ...
>>
>>
>>> and was built-in into os x (after all narrator is not that great  
>>> although it is functional) I was also concerned by the lack of  
>>> scriptability or map files to make unaccessible applications  
>>> accessible., ...
>>
>> Answer: Again this is a cultural ifference between Apple and FS/GW  
>> Micro/Orca. Developers on the Mac generally jusmp at the chance to  
>> make their applications accessible. These update come fairly  
>> quickly., ...
>>
>>> In short I thought it would be a second Narrator. Also despite my  
>>> googling I could not finda user community for vo, no one in nl  
>>> seems to use it.
>>> So I will be reading the manual asap but a few quick questions:, ...
>>
>> Answer: I believe some members on this list are from the NL. Also,  
>> there are a lot of resources such as:
>> http://www.lioncort.com/
>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>>
>> Many more exist, ...
>>
>>
>>> 1. does omnipage pro work on the mac/is it accessible?
>> Answer: Perhaps, and I can't speak to this one personally, but most  
>> people use Voscan and REad Iris for OCR.
>>
>>> 2. I guess it would be able to use my linksys route ron the mac?
>> Answer:
>>> Yes. You can for sure. I had one for a few years and just replaced  
>>> it. It worked great, despite a small bug in Safari that rendered  
>>> the web interface useless. However, this has been resolved.
>>
>>
>>> 3. hp scanners/printers, are they supported?
>> Answer: Generally yes. However, do a search on your model for  
>> specifics. Hint: Twain Sain for Mac supports scanners the OS does  
>> not by default.
>>
>>
>>> 4. Is it possible to install mac os x (or reinstall it sinc eI  
>>> guess it always comes preinstalled but you might want to install a  
>>> bigger hd for example) as a blind person? (this is possible with  
>>> both ubuntu and windows xp).
>> Answer: It is possible, though challenging if you have a unibody  
>> machine because of the design of the shell/casing, but this is not  
>> a software problem, but a hardware issue with a select few models.  
>> In contrast the Mac Pro is super easy to change drives with the  
>> Macbook White and Mac Mini in between.
>>
>>
>>> 5. How is braille support with voiceover? I dont mean the displays  
>>> themselves i know mine will work but the amount of details shown  
>>> versus spech. I am a die-hard braille user.
>>
>> Answer: It is very good. Norigion I don't belive is supported right  
>> now for Braille Tables, but it may be in September.
>>
>>
>>> 6. Since os x is unix based, I wonder if ORCA (the screenreader  
>>> for linux, although it work sunder gnome) will ever be ported?
>> Answer: If it is, it would only work in the the Gnome environment  
>> on OS X under X11.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >


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