Well, if I'm not mistaken you can play wma on the stream as well.  You  
still can't play either of those formats on an IPod or ITunes.

On Jul 15, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> Not any more. I heard they now have downloadable daisy, so we can  
> play on
> the stream.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Hadder" <bhad...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod,  
> iPhone?
>
>
>>
>> I personally think that the way NLS and RFBD should have gone about
>> the digital download thing is to have used either Audible or ITunes.
>> That way books would have been compatible with at least most known
>> platforms.
>>
>> I will say on RFBD's behalf that their downloadable audio format is  
>> as
>> close as I've ever seen them do anything right.  The problem is that
>> they can only be played on wma players.
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Dan wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Here is a different prospective.
>>> If a person belongs to Book Share, for example, this is how it  
>>> works.
>>> You have to be a paying member.
>>> When you download zipped book share files, you have to put in your
>>> login password to unpack the book.
>>> When you read the book, it has your name and watermarks in the book
>>> to make it legal. Then the web site has records of all of your
>>> downloads. This holds you answerable to your use of the files.
>>> I personally don't see why NLS and RFB&D cant use the same approach.
>>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like security by obscurity. The media folks don't want to
>>>> hear that the audio version of their book is being distributed via
>>>> the popular portable and unencumbered mp3 format which can be
>>>> copied and used on nearly any device. They would rather hear that
>>>> the file is in the obscure quijibo format which can only be
>>>> transferred via serial zmodem protocol to select licensed hardware
>>>> devices where it will speak every other word until a license
>>>> activation key is installed in the PC DIN keyboard connector. Note
>>>> that Mac users will be unable to use the quijibo format due to the
>>>> lack of a PC DIN port. Please upgrade to a PC circa 1984 or later
>>>> to be compatible.
>>>>
>>>> Or something.
>>>>
>>>> CB
>>>>
>>>> Barry Hadder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's definitely my vision of how things should be.  However, all
>>>>> such blind services (i.e. NLS, RFBD) seem to be hell bent on
>>>>> producing
>>>>> material in some bizarre format completely incompatible with
>>>>> anything
>>>>> that the main stream world is using.  I wonder just how much money
>>>>> actually goes in to the research development of that crap anyway.
>>>>> Also, I think it will be a long time before the prevailing myth  
>>>>> that
>>>>> "blind folks are supposed to use windblows based pcs" is broken.
>>>>> The
>>>>> more everyone requests compatiblity with other platforms the more
>>>>> chance there will be for change.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Chris Polk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> that would be really cool to have only one device for all of the
>>>>>> books/
>>>>>> music/phone/email, well you get the point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>> Well it looks as if the NLS here in the U.S. is going to be
>>>>>>> rolling
>>>>>>> out their long awaited digital talkingbooks and players in a few
>>>>>>> months program wide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a while there have been beta testers that have used assorted
>>>>>>> aspects of the program's hardware and software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The digital talking books are going to be put on flash memory  
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> people who have the victor reader stream have been able to
>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>> digital files of the books to play on their players for a
>>>>>>> while.  You
>>>>>>> have to register for the service and receive a special file that
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> load onto the stream from what I understand and it pinpoints you
>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>> registered NLS user and allows you to use the download-able  
>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well I am wondering if it would be possible for Apple to team up
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> NLS like they've done with Audible and allow iTunes, future
>>>>>>> iPods and
>>>>>>> or the iPhone to play the NLS DTBs?  I am thinking it would be  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> best thing in the world if I could put NLS books in iTunes and
>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>> iPod.  This can be done but it is against the law and cumbersome
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> time consuming. LOL and it would be just better in my way of
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> if NLS DTBs would just go on the iPod all on their own without
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> fuss or muss.
>>>>>>> Do you all think this could be done and is it something anyone
>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>> would like to see?
>>>>>>> How would people e go about telling Apple to look into this or
>>>>>>> like I
>>>>>>> said is it even possible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>>> Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
>>>>>>> blueskyes9112...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Olathe, Kansas USA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Join me on FaceBook:
>>>>>>> Personal Profile - www.facebook.com/blueskyes
>>>>>>> And feel free to join "The Blind Parents of FaceBook" group.
>>>>>>> Search
>>>>>>> for it in groups or contact me for details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Follow me via twitter using the username: ben_folds_fan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
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>>>
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