Perhaps, I am not a programer so perhaps someone else on this lsit is better 
placed to answer that particular. However, Firefox is open source and although  
I really like the idea of open source software and use it on all three 
operating systems; Linux, Mac and Windows,perhaps their code is even cleaner 
because they can have millions of people looking at that code and cleaning it 
up and/or modifying it to improve it. Perhaps Apple might allow some developers 
to make  plugins or even open up their architecture to Mozilla's plugins - just 
their plugins.  'But this might also destablize Mac who knows.

Take care 

james 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Blouch 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash


  Yes, for some reason Safari doesn't appear to have a plugin architecture or 
at least I've not run across any plugins for it. I guess plugins lean toward 
one side of the capability complexity trade off. You can add lots of neat new 
stuff but you might blow up your browser. Probably for 99% of the surfers out 
there they don't really care about plugins but web developers live by them. 
Especially ones like Firebug or the accessibility toolbar. If all I want to do 
is 'use' the web then Safari should be the fastest way to do that. Maybe 
because they don't support plugins their code could be cleaner?

  CB

  James & Nash wrote: 
    Hi Chris, 

    The only downside to using Safari is that it seems that you cannot  install 
Firefox plugins due to the open source nature  of FF. However, perhaps this has 
changed in the past year.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chris Blouch 
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:22 PM
      Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash


      Firefox 3.5 came out last week but I was disappointed to find 
accessibility has not improved. That is, other than the window title and menus 
(stuff generated by the OS) it was entirely inaccessible. I was hoping there 
would at least be the first glimmers of VO support. That said, Safari still 
trounces FF (and all other popular browsers) in Javascript performance.

      CB

      James & Nash wrote: 
Not from waht i've read and heard.  Shame but hopefully it will be by the 
end of this year.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash


  but the browser itself is not yet accessible to us, right?

On 7 Jul 2009, at 17:27, James & Nash wrote:

    I believe that the one for Firefox makes the Flash content into a
buton
which can be pressed. Not sure about the Safari one though.
----- Original Message -----
From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash


      yeah but is there one which enables access to it? smile

On 7 Jul 2009, at 14:50, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

        Hi,

There is a plugin for Safari that disables Flash.

Regards,
Alex,


On 7-Jul-09, at 1:35 AM, James & Nash wrote:

          Hi Will,

Once Fire Fox becomes accessible with VO you'll find that there
is a
plugin
which helps blind users cope with the increasing prevelance of
Flash
on  the
web.

Take care

James


                                        


  




  

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