Yes, for some reason Safari doesn't appear to have a plugin architecture 
or at least I've not run across any plugins for it. I guess plugins lean 
toward one side of the capability complexity trade off. You can add lots 
of neat new stuff but you might blow up your browser. Probably for 99% 
of the surfers out there they don't really care about plugins but web 
developers live by them. Especially ones like Firebug or the 
accessibility toolbar. If all I want to do is 'use' the web then Safari 
should be the fastest way to do that. Maybe because they don't support 
plugins their code could be cleaner?

CB

James & Nash wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>  
> The only downside to using Safari is that it seems that you cannot  
> install Firefox plugins due to the open source nature  of FF. However, 
> perhaps this has changed in the past year.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com>
>     *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:22 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: Firefox and Flash
>
>     Firefox 3.5 came out last week but I was disappointed to find
>     accessibility has not improved. That is, other than the window
>     title and menus (stuff generated by the OS) it was entirely
>     inaccessible. I was hoping there would at least be the first
>     glimmers of VO support. That said, Safari still trounces FF (and
>     all other popular browsers) in Javascript performance.
>
>     CB
>
>     James & Nash wrote:
>>     Not from waht i've read and heard.  Shame but hopefully it will be by 
>> the 
>>     end of this year.
>>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>>     From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com>
>>     To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>     Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:54 PM
>>     Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash
>>
>>
>>       
>>>     but the browser itself is not yet accessible to us, right?
>>>
>>>     On 7 Jul 2009, at 17:27, James & Nash wrote:
>>>
>>>         
>>>>     I believe that the one for Firefox makes the Flash content into a
>>>>     buton
>>>>     which can be pressed. Not sure about the Safari one though.
>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>     From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com>
>>>>     To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>     Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:13 PM
>>>>     Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>           
>>>>>     yeah but is there one which enables access to it? smile
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 7 Jul 2009, at 14:50, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             
>>>>>>     Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     There is a plugin for Safari that disables Flash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Regards,
>>>>>>     Alex,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 7-Jul-09, at 1:35 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>     Hi Will,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Once Fire Fox becomes accessible with VO you'll find that there
>>>>>>>     is a
>>>>>>>     plugin
>>>>>>>     which helps blind users cope with the increasing prevelance of
>>>>>>>     Flash
>>>>>>>     on  the
>>>>>>>     web.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Take care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>               
>>>>>             
>>>>           
>>>         
>>
>>
>>
>>       
>
>
>     >

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