Chris I think your correct, we are straying off topic here, but at the  
same time I think folks will benefit from a little headphone  
discussion to better hear VoiceOver with. My problem with the noise  
canceling headphones I've tried make me feel like my head is under a  
lot of pressure. Sort of like my ears are clogged and I just couldn't  
get used to that feeling. I understand the cause and it does not  
affect what is heard at all, but it is a feeling some experience and  
if you can get past it, they can be very helpful.
On Jul 3, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

>
> This is getting to be off topic, so I'm gonna write this one more  
> question,
> then put this thread to a rest.  Why would you not like noise  
> canceling ear
> phones?
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: IPod ear phones with mike and remote
>
>
>>
>> Does sound great and the Schur I own are like that. YOu really have  
>> to
>> fit them down in the ear and push the wax out of the way, um, I mean
>> well if you had any. :) Seriously though the right fit can make all
>> the difference in the world in how the sound is projected. In fact it
>> matters even with over the ear headphones. I have a set of Bose over-
>> the-ear headphones that can only be warn one way. If you flip them
>> around, yo'd think they were the worst headphones you've ever put on
>> your head. I thought this until I realized they were on backward. The
>> drivers are configured in a specific position for optimal listening.
>> They are well worth the money I paid for them and no these are not  
>> the
>> noise-canceling headphones, I don't like those.
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> After playing more with the headphones, I found, at least for me
>>> that the
>>> medium sized tips work wonders!  You admittedly do have to jammem
>>> pretty
>>> deep in your ear canal to get the best effect though.  Notice I said
>>> jammem!
>>> I didn't say crammem!  There is? a difference.  Then under settings,
>>> Playback, EQ, I got it set on base booster.  You have to remember
>>> there are
>>> 3 drivers in each ear peace, a tweeter, a whoofer, and whatever
>>> would go for
>>> your mids, so over all I'm really impressed.  Don't let the look of
>>> them
>>> fool you, you're gonna look at the things and say jeez, ear buds
>>> with a mike
>>> and cilicon tips, big deal, why the heck $79.  Trust me, play
>>> something
>>> through them, and you'll know why!  I'm still breath taken at the
>>> sound.  It
>>> isn't bose by any stretch, no, but! it's still incredible!
>>>
>>> I'm gonna try these things in my computer and see if in the mike
>>> jack I can
>>> make it work.
>>>
>>> I'll let ya know.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: IPod ear phones with mike and remote
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Chris, that is what I suspected on the fit and recording
>>>> ability, but still they sound very nice. I think the voice memo was
>>>> just that, a way to record notes to yourself, but well wishful
>>>> thinking. :) I believe there is an accessory from Griffin or some
>>>> such
>>>> company that does what I'd be interested in, but I have to go out  
>>>> and
>>>> do some digging again.
>>>>
>>>> tnx,
>>>> On Jul 3, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've not played enough to really comment, with these, but you  
>>>>> get 3
>>>>> different size cilicon tips that you can change out.  So, yeah.
>>>>> They seem
>>>>> to fit pretty well.  The only thing I don't like is they feel  
>>>>> kind a
>>>>> like
>>>>> they'd fall out, even though they don't seem to do so no matter  
>>>>> what
>>>>> I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you'd be fine.  The only drawback I can say with these  
>>>>> is if
>>>>> you're
>>>>> wanting to soundscape, or record things in your surroundings,  
>>>>> like a
>>>>> class
>>>>> lecture etc. don't even attempt.  These seem to only work at  
>>>>> what is
>>>>> real
>>>>> close up to the mike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: IPod ear phones with mike and remote
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the description and operation of these. I wish they
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> record in stereo, that would be quite a handy feature. :) The one
>>>>>> thing I would be curious about is how well they stay in the  
>>>>>> ear. I
>>>>>> have two sets of ear buds here and one is made by Sony and they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> about $20, but what makes them nice is they don't sound to bad,  
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> they have like a loop your ear fits through, which holds the buds
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> place better. The other set I have normally sells for $150 and is
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> by Schur, but I got them for $50 and was using them as in-ear
>>>>>> monitors
>>>>>> when I was playing in a band. They actually fit slightly into the
>>>>>> ear
>>>>>> canal and the way they are designed, they are held in by the ear
>>>>>> leather if you will-the ear itself. Do these fit well and not  
>>>>>> quite
>>>>>> likely to fall out? The one thing I like about the Sony pair is  
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can even eat and all the jaw flexing won't unset them and the  
>>>>>> Schur
>>>>>> seem to be that way, but I've only drank stuff with them in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tnx,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wanted to write in to say that I just got the IPod/IPhone
>>>>>>> cilicon
>>>>>>> tipped in the ear ear buds with the remote/mike combo.  Though I
>>>>>>> have not
>>>>>>> played with it much, I did want to say, the sound quality is  
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>> this world amazing.  The stereo seperation is unbelievable.  I
>>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>>> give a few tips though for those who may be thinking of buying  
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The microphone and remote actually are about a fourth of the way
>>>>>>> down the
>>>>>>> cord from your right ear piece.  If you feel on the side of the
>>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>> facing
>>>>>>> away from you, once they're in your ears, you'll feel two little
>>>>>>> bumps.  One
>>>>>>> on the top and another further down toward the floor.  This is
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> remote
>>>>>>> volume control.  The way I do this is take your thumb on your
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>> hand to
>>>>>>> grap the back of the mike/remote and then use your index  
>>>>>>> finger on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> button and squeeze.  Apple told me that it is not a button it's
>>>>>>> actually a
>>>>>>> little indention you tap on, but they are actually incorrect on
>>>>>>> this.  You
>>>>>>> do? actually have to push.  Now, in the middle between those two
>>>>>>> buttons,
>>>>>>> there is a big kind a flat little indention, not sure how to
>>>>>>> describe it.
>>>>>>> It kind a feels totally flushed.  It's virtically right between
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> volume
>>>>>>> up and down.  This is another button that serves a few
>>>>>>> purposes.  If
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> push it one time, that is your play/pause.  Kind a like you
>>>>>>> hitting
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> wheel in the middle.  Now, if you double tap it like a double
>>>>>>> click
>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>> fast, just go, tap tap, it'll move you to the next track.  If  
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> tripple
>>>>>>> click it:  tap tap tap, It'll go to the previous track.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you can do this when the IPod's hold switch is
>>>>>>> engaged.  I
>>>>>>> would think you could, but I'm not sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another thing definitely worth noting is that from what I've
>>>>>>> read on
>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>> reviews, the volume remote does *not* work with the IPhone.   
>>>>>>> Don't
>>>>>>> ask me
>>>>>>> why, but...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other thing I haven't yet tried is in the main menu of the
>>>>>>> IPod,
>>>>>>> I don't
>>>>>>> know if you actually can use the up and down keys to scroll like
>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>> click wheel.  I don't think you can, but I've not honestly  
>>>>>>> tried.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, now, for the voice memo feature.  I'm gonna step you through
>>>>>>> this but
>>>>>>> just know, I'm doing this based off the IPod Nano 4th Gen.  It
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> different depending on what model you have, and I guarantee!  
>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> different with the IPod touch, although I hardly know anyone on
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> who'd
>>>>>>> have that being we're all visiually impaired for the most part.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, the end of the cord is a standard 8th inch.  Now, having  
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>> don't try plugging it into a mike jack on a pc tower.  I somehow
>>>>>>> dono if
>>>>>>> that would work.  I don't think it would.  I guess it's got  
>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>> 4way
>>>>>>> conductor in it.  Anyway, once you plug it in, even if it's on
>>>>>>> hold,
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> IPod is going to power up, and you'll be in your main menu on
>>>>>>> music.  You'll
>>>>>>> hear this if you have the voice sinked down, which you should.
>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>> if you
>>>>>>> scroll clockwize on the wheel, not the remote, I mean the actual
>>>>>>> click
>>>>>>> wheel.  You're gonna see another menu option that says voice
>>>>>>> memos.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> won't be there unless you have these special headphones.  Don't
>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>> plugging
>>>>>>> a regular mike in, it won't work.  I already tried.  So, click  
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the center
>>>>>>> of the wheel on select.  ok, now you're gonna have a menu.
>>>>>>> Basically the
>>>>>>> first time you do this there'll only be one option.  That'll be
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> recording.  So click on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, you're recording and have a few things you can do.  the  
>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>> gonna speak at this point so hear me out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you click the wheel in the center like selecting an option,
>>>>>>> that'll
>>>>>>> insert another chapter every time that you push it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To stop recording, you got a few things you can do.  First,  
>>>>>>> click
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> menu/back part of the wheel, so bascially push at 12:00.  Don't
>>>>>>> hold
>>>>>>> it in,
>>>>>>> just push and release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now this isn't gonna read, but you're at a menu.  If you have  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> clicks set
>>>>>>> to come through your ear phones, which by default they are, then
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> count clicks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basically, you have resume recording, pause recording, delete
>>>>>>> recording, and
>>>>>>> stop and save.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So just brush your finger clockwise until you hear no more  
>>>>>>> clicks,
>>>>>>> then hit
>>>>>>> select in the center.  Boom, it saves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, now to play it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go back to your main IPod screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scroll to voice memos again.  This time yeah, you'll see start
>>>>>>> recording but
>>>>>>> if you scroll down, now! you'll see something that says
>>>>>>> recordings.
>>>>>>> Go in
>>>>>>> there and you got delete all, or if you scroll down, you have  
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> recordings.  Click on the one you want, then you have things  
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> label,
>>>>>>> play, delete, etc.  Now be aware, when you sync your IPod,  
>>>>>>> look in
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> sources list.  There's gonna be a playlist called voice memos
>>>>>>> that'll get
>>>>>>> created.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, anything that you sync from your system down to the IPod
>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>> memo, be aware that will not be under recordings in your voice
>>>>>>> memos
>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>> on the IPod.  What happens is, when you sync a memo to ITunes,
>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>> it from the recordings screen under voice memos and whipe it off
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> IPod.
>>>>>>> Now if you resync it, then on the IPod, you'll then wanna go  
>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>> from the main IPod menu, then go down to playlists, and finally
>>>>>>> voice memos,
>>>>>>> and there they'll all be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope that this helps someone thinking of getting these ear
>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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