Hi,

My bad. My typo.

Regards,
Alex,


On 30-May-09, at 2:42 PM, Justin Harford wrote:

>
> OH ok I'm sorry.  You said aple not apple.  Then we had a
> missunderstanding.
>
> J
> On May 30, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> No. I'm working with *Apple*. If Apple does it, it is different.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 30-May-09, at 2:35 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Didn't you just declare that such meddling is illegal, and yet you
>>> are
>>> now admitting that you have been engaged in it?
>>>
>>> J
>>> On May 30, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We are curently working with Aple on the same project, so the boat
>>>> has
>>>> floated. Come join us. E-mail me off-list.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alex,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30-May-09, at 2:08 PM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi greg,
>>>>> i have been awaiting to ask you all those braille questions.
>>>>> if a fondation for the blind in italy wants to develop those  
>>>>> tables
>>>>> is
>>>>> there a way to colaborate con apple?
>>>>> this fondation already does it for jaws ...
>>>>> rk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno 30/mag/09, alle ore 22:53, Greg Kearney ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's nonsense Apple is just using the old NFBtrans braille  
>>>>>> table
>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gregory Kearney
>>>>>> Manager - Accessible Media
>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>>>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>>>>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>>>>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>>>>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
>>>>>> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
>>>>>> Email: gkear...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/05/2009, at 2:37 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Red Flag. This is "Reverse Engineering" and is not allowed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Alex,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30-May-09, at 1:34 PM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i would be interested in this as well.
>>>>>>>> rk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Il giorno 30/mag/09, alle ore 10:57, Jesper Holten ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi ann.
>>>>>>>>> How do one go about making a braille table used by voiceover?
>>>>>>>>> I would be most obliged for any help you can provide me!
>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Jesper.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Anne Robertson" <a...@anarchie.org.uk>
>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:32 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: French Braille
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Rossy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Italian Braille can be added if someone can find the 8-dot
>>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>>>>>>>> for all the characters. You might like to try the French
>>>>>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> see whether the accents and punctuation are the same as in
>>>>>>>>>> Italian.
>>>>>>>>>> The French table certainly includes some Spanish punctuation
>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> the reverse exclamation mark.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 27, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hi ann,
>>>>>>>>>>> i am so happy that this discussion came up. i live in italy
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> the other day i discussed with a tecnical man of an  
>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>> structure about the braille tables. can somebody explain to
>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> is possibile. this man is a pc fan , and he sostains that
>>>>>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> is limited because no one can develop the local language
>>>>>>>>>>> tables
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the braille displays .
>>>>>>>>>>> as you know we all hope that sl comes up with different
>>>>>>>>>>> sustem
>>>>>>>>>>> languages , which in it self solves the problem , but i  
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> know if it is possibile to interact with the tables just to
>>>>>>>>>>> killl
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> other pregiudices against our mac.
>>>>>>>>>>> hope i was comprihensive...
>>>>>>>>>>> rossy
>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 27/mag/09, alle ore 12:45, Anne Robertson ha
>>>>>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello David,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My husband did the coding, but if you could send us a
>>>>>>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>>>>>> containing the Norwegian Braille codes, he could make one
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Norwegian, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What we need are the 8-dot Braille patterns for each
>>>>>>>>>>>> character.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously, the basic alphabet is the same for all languages
>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Latin alphabet, but accented letters and punctuation often
>>>>>>>>>>>> vary
>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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