Hi again Esther.

Thanks for your valuable info.
I've done what you have selected and renamed the metallica collection to each 
individual album as you suggested. I'm wondering when I look up metallica in 
the browser, should I now be seeing all the album names or not?

Just wondered if there was a way of now that each album is named accordingly, 
can all the albums appear in the file browser or not?

Thanks again.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Esther 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:13 AM
  Subject: Re: Query about iTunes album's and groupings


  Hi Scott,


  Yes, it's probably easiest to make playlists of the individual albums.  
There's nothing to stop your simply renaming the the main album from "Metallica 
Collection" to the individual album names associated with the tracks for each 
disc, you know.  Instead of copying the grouping tag to the smart play list 
name, just select all songs in the play list  songs table (Command-A), open Get 
Info (Command-I), and on the Info tab, just tab over to the Album field and 
paste in the name of the album.  That seems much easier to me.  You don't even 
need to use a smart playlist, if you know the names of the individual albums.  
Use the file browser (Command-B) and select the album (Metallica Collection). 
Then, go to the target search field with the (Command-Option-F) shortcut and 
type in the name of the indvidual albums (like "Kill 'Em All"). When you tab 
back to the songs table and select all (Command-A) on the Info tab you should 
find "Kill 'Em All" for the Grouping entry.  If so, just  copy it, VO-Up Arrow 
once to the Album field, paste with Command-V, and return.  That will re-name 
that grouping of tracks to the Album indicated in the grouping field.  Just 
work your way through the rest of the album.  If the Grouping entry is blank, 
that means one of the entries has a different tag, and you want to check before 
doing your paste -- you could have a song which matches your search text, but 
which is in a different album.


  I'd bet that iTunes put all entries into a single "album" because of the way 
their album purchasing model works.  Nothing to keep you from reorganizing 
things.  Then you could also access your music from the album menu on the Nano 
4G.  If you'd rather use the smart playlist solution, you can use those 
playlists to start selecting your tracks with Command-A and then rename the 
album in the Get Info menu.


  Cheers,


  Esther




  On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Scott Rutkowski wrote:


    Hi Esther.

    NO you can't collapse or expand the albums like it was displayed in the 
iTunes store.
    I think the easiest way so far is to create a playlist and just copy the 
songs from each album in to the playlist because to play an album from start to 
end just to select that album in the collection to play the album seems to me 
to be a lot of work. Also if I just copy the collection to the ipod nano 4g, I 
would need a smart playlist just to play an individual album wouldn't I seen's 
there's no easy way to select an album on the ipod.

    Is this correct?


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Esther
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:55 AM
      Subject: Re: Query about iTunes album's and groupings


      Hi Scott,


      You asked:
          Can anyone please advise how I can do the following in iTunes?
          OK the deal is I have a box set the metallica collection I just 
purchased.
          Now alll the albums in the box set are all named the metallica 
collection then under this title all the albums are grouped in to groupings and 
all the tracks for each album are part of the box set.
          My query is if i use the browser to look up metallica then look up 
the album then under the grouping column I can see all the albums listed. I 
want to sort all the albums in to their own playlists by using the grouping 
column. Is this possible and if so how is it done?

          At first when I looked up metallica in the browser i thought i would 
be able to sort by albums but no it shows up as the metallica collection and 
each album is grouped in their own grouping.
      An easy way to make playlists of indvidual albums in your Metallica 
collection would be to use a smart playlist and select by disc number, since 
each disc in the collection is a separate album with a different name under 
grouping.  So for example. using rules like:  <Album> <is> <Metallica 
Collection>  and <Disc number>    <is> <1>  you would get the grouping named 
"Kill 'Em All", which is the first album in the 16-disc collection you 
purchased from the iTunes Store. If you used the file browser in iTunes to 
select the album ("Metallica Collection") and view the results in the songs 
table, you'll get all 16 albums in the collection.  These appear in album order 
if you've sorted on the album column, but the individual album names in the 
collection appear under the grouping keyword, and tracks from all 16 discs 
appear in the song table.  


      To rename the playlists to the album named under "grouping" after you've 
made up each smart playlist, copy this from the Get Info menu of one of your 
tracks and then paste this into your playlist name:


      1. Select any of the songs,  Command-I to bring up Get Info menu; VO-I 
and select the "Info" tab in item chooser menu, return, and VO-Space; next VO-I 
and select "Grouping", arrow down to find the text entry, return, then 
Command-C to copy the grouping entry; Escape to close the get info menu.  
      2. Tab back to the sources table where the playlist is selected.  
Double-click with VO-Shift-Space (hold down the Control, Option and Shift Keys 
while tapping the space bar twice).  Command-V to paste in the Grouping (album) 
name (e.g. "Kill 'Em All").


      HTH


      Cheers,


      Esther


      P.S. I tried looking at the iTunes Store entry for this album.  For any 
of the tracks you start playing (e.g., by pressing return on your selecting in 
the songs table) you can do a Command-I and query the tagging information. This 
is how I could tell there are 16 discs in the collection. On the iTunes Store 
entries I could also expand or collapse the individual album listings in this 
collection (much like you can do with podcast folders).  Does it work this way 
for your purchased tracks, too, when you select the album?








  

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