Hi Scott,

Yes, it's probably easiest to make playlists of the individual  
albums.  There's nothing to stop your simply renaming the the main  
album from "Metallica Collection" to the individual album names  
associated with the tracks for each disc, you know.  Instead of  
copying the grouping tag to the smart play list name, just select all  
songs in the play list  songs table (Command-A), open Get Info  
(Command-I), and on the Info tab, just tab over to the Album field and  
paste in the name of the album.  That seems much easier to me.  You  
don't even need to use a smart playlist, if you know the names of the  
individual albums.  Use the file browser (Command-B) and select the  
album (Metallica Collection). Then, go to the target search field with  
the (Command-Option-F) shortcut and type in the name of the indvidual  
albums (like "Kill 'Em All"). When you tab back to the songs table and  
select all (Command-A) on the Info tab you should find "Kill 'Em All"  
for the Grouping entry.  If so, just  copy it, VO-Up Arrow once to the  
Album field, paste with Command-V, and return.  That will re-name that  
grouping of tracks to the Album indicated in the grouping field.  Just  
work your way through the rest of the album.  If the Grouping entry is  
blank, that means one of the entries has a different tag, and you want  
to check before doing your paste -- you could have a song which  
matches your search text, but which is in a different album.

I'd bet that iTunes put all entries into a single "album" because of  
the way their album purchasing model works.  Nothing to keep you from  
reorganizing things.  Then you could also access your music from the  
album menu on the Nano 4G.  If you'd rather use the smart playlist  
solution, you can use those playlists to start selecting your tracks  
with Command-A and then rename the album in the Get Info menu.

Cheers,

Esther


On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Scott Rutkowski wrote:

> Hi Esther.
>
> NO you can't collapse or expand the albums like it was displayed in  
> the iTunes store.
> I think the easiest way so far is to create a playlist and just copy  
> the songs from each album in to the playlist because to play an  
> album from start to end just to select that album in the collection  
> to play the album seems to me to be a lot of work. Also if I just  
> copy the collection to the ipod nano 4g, I would need a smart  
> playlist just to play an individual album wouldn't I seen's there's  
> no easy way to select an album on the ipod.
>
> Is this correct?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Esther
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Query about iTunes album's and groupings
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> You asked:
>> Can anyone please advise how I can do the following in iTunes?
>> OK the deal is I have a box set the metallica collection I just  
>> purchased.
>> Now alll the albums in the box set are all named the metallica  
>> collection then under this title all the albums are grouped in to  
>> groupings and all the tracks for each album are part of the box set.
>> My query is if i use the browser to look up metallica then look up  
>> the album then under the grouping column I can see all the albums  
>> listed. I want to sort all the albums in to their own playlists by  
>> using the grouping column. Is this possible and if so how is it done?
>>
>> At first when I looked up metallica in the browser i thought i  
>> would be able to sort by albums but no it shows up as the metallica  
>> collection and each album is grouped in their own grouping.
> An easy way to make playlists of indvidual albums in your Metallica  
> collection would be to use a smart playlist and select by disc  
> number, since each disc in the collection is a separate album with a  
> different name under grouping.  So for example. using rules like:   
> <Album> <is> <Metallica Collection>  and <Disc number>    <is> <1>   
> you would get the grouping named "Kill 'Em All", which is the first  
> album in the 16-disc collection you purchased from the iTunes Store.  
> If you used the file browser in iTunes to select the album  
> ("Metallica Collection") and view the results in the songs table,  
> you'll get all 16 albums in the collection.  These appear in album  
> order if you've sorted on the album column, but the individual album  
> names in the collection appear under the grouping keyword, and  
> tracks from all 16 discs appear in the song table.
>
> To rename the playlists to the album named under "grouping" after  
> you've made up each smart playlist, copy this from the Get Info menu  
> of one of your tracks and then paste this into your playlist name:
>
> 1. Select any of the songs,  Command-I to bring up Get Info menu; VO- 
> I and select the "Info" tab in item chooser menu, return, and VO- 
> Space; next VO-I and select "Grouping", arrow down to find the text  
> entry, return, then Command-C to copy the grouping entry; Escape to  
> close the get info menu.
> 2. Tab back to the sources table where the playlist is selected.   
> Double-click with VO-Shift-Space (hold down the Control, Option and  
> Shift Keys while tapping the space bar twice).  Command-V to paste  
> in the Grouping (album) name (e.g. "Kill 'Em All").
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> P.S. I tried looking at the iTunes Store entry for this album.  For  
> any of the tracks you start playing (e.g., by pressing return on  
> your selecting in the songs table) you can do a Command-I and query  
> the tagging information. This is how I could tell there are 16 discs  
> in the collection. On the iTunes Store entries I could also expand  
> or collapse the individual album listings in this collection (much  
> like you can do with podcast folders).  Does it work this way for  
> your purchased tracks, too, when you select the album?
>
>
> >


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