Hi Mike,
I'm curious about the COM stuff. In a later note you said:
It's actually sorta been fun programming on the 'real' M100; I left a
download running on the PC and every time I wanted to backup an interim
version just in case, I just pressed F3 and F7 (which I'd programmed
with the COM stats).
and here, you say stuff about programming the function keys with
"COM:88N1E"...
It would be nice to be able to transfer / save from BASIC and/or my
terminal on the Mac without the overhead of dl/TEENY.CO. I know enough
to be dangerous and that the keys can easily be programmed to
effectively type stuff. I'm just not clear on is how this works
mechanically. Are you in BASIC, typing away, having just fixed some bit
and are ready to SAVE it remotely, so you press F3 and voila, it just
does it, or do you press F3 and then do something to get it
transferring, or what?
I have the cables hooked up and usually, I:
1. SAVE from BASIC to .DO or .BA
2. Start up DL on the Mac side, if it isn't already running in my ~/m100
directory
3. Press F8 to get menu
4. Select TEENY.CO
5. Type S HEXIT .DO
6. Watch it complete without error (so long as HEXIT.DO doesn't already
exist, I think)
What I'm imagining happen is:
1. SAVE from BASIC to .DO or .BA
2. Press F3
3. Magically a file is sent and received on the Mac (where does it's
name come from?)
4. Celebration
or
1. F2 from BASIC
2. Start sending a file (how?) from the Mac
3. Celebration
Just curious!
Will
On 10/28/22 12:30 PM, MikeS wrote:
Yeah, that's a setup I used for a while, sort of a poor man's
tablet/clamshell 'convertible. ;-) No problem extending the cable to
around 2 feet.
Never did use the disk drives very much although I did install a
second one; even today while playing with Will's dump program it's so
simple to plug in the cable to the PC, select download or upload on
the PC and either BASIC F3 (SAVE) to com: or TEXT F2 (LOAD) from com:,
not to mention being able to print on the PC and send/receive over the
Internet.
Question for the experts: I have "COM:88N1E" stored in one of the
BASIC function keys; I don't suppose there's a way to do that for TEXT?
Back in the day IIRC the DVI and the M100 were both around $800;
probably still have the receipts somewhere; don't know what that'd be
today..
And yes, the Model T and NEC BASICs are remarkably versatile,
especially considering the size constraints.
Definitely unique and, I don't know, friendly in a way...
m
----- Original Message -----
*From:* B 9 <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Friday, October 28, 2022 12:39 AM
*Subject:* Re: [M100] Notoriously S.L.O.W BASIC posted - help
speeding it up appreciated
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:51 AM MikeS <[email protected]> wrote:
It might not be so bad on a 200 but my main annoyance
is having to scroll up and down on the M100's 8 line screen;
as a matter of fact the larger screen was the main reason I
bought a DVI when they came out.
When they came out? I wonder if they were more expensive when they
were new or now that they are rare and "vintage". Is that a
picture of your Disk/Video Interface setup? Looks nifty!
For a lot of stuff in the old days I actually used GWBASIC or
TBASIC to program on a PC; except for screen printing and
graphics they're almost completely compatible and with a few
conditional lines many programs could be run and tested on
both the PC and the M100.
There's something I didn't know! I've been surprised at how
capable the Model T's 8-bit BASIC is. Was it the last one
Microsoft made? Given what I had expected after seeing the Apple
][ and C64, it's quite a bit more advanced. (For example, ON COM
GOSUB). And I read that the NEC 8201A version of the DVI allowed
not only color graphics, but extended the BASIC language with
graphics commands that I think may be from GW-BASIC.
I can understand that some folks want to relive the total
experience of doing everything on the old hardware [...]
Sure, and there's nothing wrong with reliving the past. But,
that's not me. I didn't get to experience the M100 when it was
current. This is my first time around with this technology, so
part of the fun is trying to see what it was like back then. I
know, it's sort of like people who go camping for a week to get in
touch with their primitive hunter-gatherer ancestors. Not likely
to be terribly accurate, but still, it's fun.
Nevertheless, for just noodling around while relaxing on the
couch not much can beat the M100.
I'm beginning to learn that! I still haven't got a true Model 100.
I only have a Tandy 200 because my neighbor was throwing it away
and wondered if I could use "an old laptop". I had no idea what
it was. But, given my experiences so far, maybe I should look into
getting the real thing some day.
—b9
