As far as I can tell, the biblatex problems were caused by the conflicting
TeXLive installations, as well as a conflict between biblatex and
polyglossia. The ERT problems were due to font-internal deficiencies
(lacking small caps) and a misreading of the package documentation.
--Jason
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, stefano franchi
<stefano.fran...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jason F. Siegel <siege...@umail.iu.edu>
> wrote:
> > On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
> >> <stefano.fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel <
> siege...@umail.iu.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel <
> siege...@umail.iu.edu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Jason F. Siegel" <siege...@umail.iu.edu> írta:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
> >>>> attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
> >>>> show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
> >>>> file.
> >>>>
> >>>> --Jason
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel <
> siege...@umail.iu.edu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Csikos,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
> >>>> problem is
> >>>> different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
> >>>> with
> >>>> what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be
> overlooking
> >>>> something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>> citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
> >>>> continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
> >>>> references and could format my ERT properly.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier
> LyX
> >>>> file
> >>>> and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
> >>>> seeing,
> >>>> even if it's not reproducing on their machine.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason,
> >>>>
> >>>> you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
> >>>> bibliography are as you desire (I think).
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you see in the log file?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stefano
> >>>>
> >>>> --Jason
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Jason F. Siegel" <siege...@umail.iu.edu> írta:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
> >>>> formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
> >>>> the
> >>>> order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
> >>>> Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
> >>>> (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
> >>>> plainnat
> >>>> style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
> >>>> load
> >>>> in 2.0.7 for some reason).
> >>>>
> >>>> In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
> >>>> expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
> >>>> upright
> >>>> characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
> >>>> followed
> >>>> by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
> >>>> lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
> >>>> I've attached an he.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason,
> >>>>
> >>>> I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
> >>>> only
> >>>> lyx 2.0 installed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have some general comments.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the
> included
> >>>> previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message)
> you
> >>>> are
> >>>> actually refer to.
> >>>>
> >>>> - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they
> >>>> are
> >>>> very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as
> >>>> possible
> >>>> removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings
> >>>> but
> >>>> keeping those that cause the error.
> >>>>
> >>>> Back to the specific case:
> >>>>
> >>>> In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib)
> the
> >>>> last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
> >>>> There
> >>>> is a missing "}" at the end and I think "address = " is not valid. The
> >>>> entry
> >>>> "Cohen1998" is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a
> >>>> very
> >>>> different output.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
> >>>> original, and with the fixed bib file.
> >>>>
> >>>> In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
> >>>> bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
> >>>> preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex
> >>>> under
> >>>> Tools=>Preferences=>Output=>LaTeX=>Processor: biber. Make sure you
> have
> >>>> biber set there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Csikos,
> >>>> ,
> >>>> Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
> >>>> Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber
> as
> >>>> the
> >>>> backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
> >>>> combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the
> beta
> >>>> and
> >>>> the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one
> >>>> for
> >>>> \sortlist and the other for \endsortlist.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>
> >>>> my suggestion to get out of the problem you find yourself is the same
> >>>> as Cskos's: try to reduce the number of variables as much as possible
> >>>> in order to isolate the root of the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> The first thing you need to find out is whether you have a working
> >>>> biblatex+biber installation.
> >>>> 1. Make a new lyx file using one of the standard classes (book,
> >>>> article), add )only* your biblatex call to the preamble (the
> >>>> \usepackage and the \addbibresource commands), and put no more than
> >>>> one word of text in the file itself, plus a couple of references at
> >>>> most. See what happens.
> >>>>
> >>>> If biblatex/biber work in the simplest possible scenario, you can
> >>>> start to work on your (very complex) preamble.
> >>>>
> >>>> I created a new document with just two citations using BiBLaTeX and
> >>>> biber,
> >>>> and the document still fails to compile, giving me the same two errors
> >>>> that
> >>>> I cited above, for \sortlist and \endsortlist.
> >>>>
> >>>> I notice in my BiBTeX log it says
> >>>>
> >>>> WARN - Warning: Found biblatex control file version 1.7, expected
> >>>> version
> >>>> 2.5
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It wouldn't surprise me if this is the culprit, but I have no clue
> about
> >>>> how
> >>>> to fix it.
> >>>>
> >>> That is most likely the source of all or at least most of your
> troubles.
> >>>
> >>> It is crucial that you keep biber and biblatex in sync. The best way
> >>> to do this in a production environment is to never install packages
> >>> manually, but to rely on texlive manager, which will take care of the
> >>> sync for you. However, this is for the future, and the problem is now
> >>> how to fix your current (apparently broken) installation.
> >>>
> >>> This (relatively) simple requirement is made more complicated on
> >>> Ubuntu (which I believe you are using) because Ubuntu' package manager
> >>> also tries to manage the TeX live installation, but it is not in sync
> >>> with the updated TeX Live repositories. Long story short: if you have
> >>> installed *both* Ubuntu's TeXLive *and* the official TeXLive
> >>> distribution (from www.tug.org/texlive ), you are in trouble. They
> >>> conflict with each other. You need to opt either for the official
> >>> TeXLive (more up to date, but need to be updated manually by you with
> >>> tlmgr) or Ubuntu's version (not so up to date, but managed
> >>> automatiaclly by the Ubuntu package manager).
> >>
> >> The tricky thing is that even if you want to go with the official TeX
> >> Live installation, Ubuntu will still try to install its own whenever
> >> you install a package that depends on LaTeX.
> >>
> >> My installation script for TeX Live 2013 handles all of that
> >> automatically:
> >> https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
> >>
> >> clone and run with
> >> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu
> >>
> >> and you're done.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >
> > Thank you Scott and Stefano. The biblatex now works like a charm, and
> with a
> > little bit of googling, I discovered the solutions to my ERT troubles as
> > well.
> >
>
>
> Glad to hear that!
>
> To close this conversation for future memory could you confirm that
> all your biblatex problems were due to conflicting TeXLive
> installation on your Ubuntu system?
> Or did you find other problems as well?
>
> That may help future information seekers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
> --
> __________________________________________________
> Stefano Franchi
> Associate Research Professor
> Department of Hispanic Studies Ph: +1 (979) 845-2125
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>
> stef...@tamu.edu
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>
--
Jason F. Siegel
Ph.D. Candidate
Linguistics & French Linguistics
Indiana University-Bloomington
http://jasonfsiegel.weebly.com
