On Tuesday 30 April 2002 01:56, Robin Turner wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 April 2002 00:13, Thomas Templin wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > --- I certainly want to make list participation as pleasant
> > > as possible but I feel no responsibility of any kind if "your
> > > hard drive is ruined".  Indeed, I do not see why it is my
> > > responsibility to protect you from viruses; I am not your
> > > ISP.
> >
> > But you ar th maintainer of a mailing list which spreads
> > viruses to a lot of users, which may not be as professional as
> > you are. Due to my experience a lot/most users are not familiar
> > with system administration. Especially Windows users.
>
> Well, even Windows users should know enough to install anti-virus
> software. I sympathise with people who lose data because of
> virii, but then that's a risk you take if you choose to run
> Windows.  And I seriously doubt that the kind of Windows user who
> doesn't know how to install and run something like Norton
> Antivirus would be up to installing LyX with CygWin!
>
> > > Viruses are just one of our problems: spam is the other.  I
> > > can safely say that the only way to tackle both if we
> > > implement one of the two methods I described in my previous
> > > email.  So we have to make the usual choice between security
> > > and convenience.
> >
> > Most of the spam mails was coded as HTML mail which could be
> > blocked. Up to now I have not seen any spam mail going over
> > this list which was not HTML coded.
> >
> > Sorry, but I have to disagree.
> > Lyx List is the only one I know which don't filter theese
> > attachments.
> > Most list maintainers dont allow attachments and HTML mailings.
> > Tools which allow a precise filtering of those trash can be
> > found at freshmeat and savannah.
>
> Two problems here.  While I prefer plain text mail, some people
> have email accounts which insist on sending as HTML (sounds
> stupid, but this issue has come up on a number of lists).  Again,
> the sensible precaution is to be taken by the user: if you don't
> like HTML, whether as an indicator of spam or a bearer of
> malicious code, just set your mail client to read everything as
> plain text by default.  If you really hate HTML, filter it out
> yourself.  The second problem is with filtering attachments -
> it's frequently useful on a list of this type for people to be
> able to attach LyX files.  Filtering out certain types of
> attachments (e.g. .exe, .bat) would of course be useful.
We are talking about lyx-users list arent we?
So would you please show me who insist on using HTML coded mail 
please.

BTW. You dont say a word that _lyx-users_ liust is spreading 
viruses. Its one thing if a virus comes from a Windows machine but 
it is an other if the maintainer of a list spreads them to all 
subscribers. And the list maintainer knows about techniques to 
avoid this but he dont care a bit.

Have you ever heared of tools like amavis...

bye,
Thomas 

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