On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:48:39AM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
> > If you choose Layout->Document and in the dialogue that opens set Fonts
> > button to "palatino" (or some other non-default), there are no problems
> > with PDF whatsoever. Well, almost. Math is still in Computer Modern
> > and comes out fuzzy in PDF.
>
> Actually, \usepackage{palatino} is completely outdated as almost the
> whole LyX font stuff:
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/dante/info/l2tabu/english/l2tabuen.pdf
>
> You'd better
> \usepackage{mathpazo}
> then you'll also get matching math fonts.
First of all, thanks for pointing me to this text, but I must tell you
that after reading it I realised that I do _not_ commit _any_ of those
"deadly sins". Did you notice that I used Euler for math with palatino?
Namely, if you load palatino + euler you get:
1) Palatino for Serif (roman)
2) Helvetica for Sans
3) Courier for Monospace
4) Euler for math
If you load mathpazo + helvetica + courier as the article above suggests
you get:
1) Palatino for Serif (roman)
2) Helvetica for Sans
3) Courier for Monospace
4) Italic Palatino for math
As you can see the difference is only in the math font. And that
difference is deliberate. I _want_ Euler for my math.
Hack, Euler matches _much_ better with Palatino then with the Concrete
fonts used for text in Knuths "Concrete Math". Nobody accused Knuth of
committing sin for using different fonts for text and math in that book.
:-)
Notice that you could scale Helvetica by 0.9 to 0.92 after loading
palatino and euler similar to the suggestion in the article.
A person who doesn't care about math can _much_ easier recognise the
name palatino than mathpazo. If you write only non-math texts, why
would you care whether it's palatino or mathpazo? My wife writes her
letters in LyX. She really doesn't care either about math or Helvetica
scaling. Palatino works great for her. It's far from obsolete.
On the other hand, if you really care about math, you are right. One
needs to use either mathpazo or other matching math font. Now, I knew
about old mathppl package, I didn't like it, and I always used Euler
with Palatino. That is the reason I never bothered to see if there is
something new, like mathpazo. Mathpazo simply loads italicised Palatino
for math. Frankly, I still prefer Euler for my math.
If you read French, see this nice article about math fonts in TeX,
and how to make math match your Multiple Master fonts:
http://www.gutenberg.eu.org/pub/GUTenberg/publicationsPDF/25-bouche.pdf
The footnote number 4 on the page 3 prompted me to start using
Palatino+Euler combination, and I'm happy with it ever since.
Of course, this is my personal decision, and there's no accounting for
taste. You are absolutely right that people who simply want to use
Palatino, and have any math in their document should use mathpazo.
>
> And instead of ae, I'd recommend latin modern, a much better type-1
> version of cm (though still beta and not yet perfect).
Which package do you load for this?
Best regards,
--
Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/
