On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, John Levon wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:45:03PM +0200, Christian Ridderstr?m wrote:
>
> > * What about adding a way to manually specify the name of a citation?
> 
> This will complicate the dialog ... not good... I'm not sure but
> Qt doesn't seem to let QListBox's do the "type out the contents"
> selection.

Maybe I should just bugzilla it as an enhancement for a possible future 
rework of this dialog?
Comment:
        \cite{} in ERT works of course, but it would be 
        convenient to not have to think about what the 
        difference is between \cite{} and \citet{} etc.

Aargh... I'm being stupid... the dialog already has a field where you 
can enter text... so what about this solution:

Move the search field (and the the buttons below it) down a little bit, 
and add a button above the search field with the text: 
        "Add text below as citation key"
that adds a citation with the key as it is typed in the search field.
I guess the text for the new button is a bit long... but you get the idea. 

Anyway, I've just bugzillaed the above.

> > * Some references are not shown in the "info" area. This seems to be 
> >   references that you have added to your "Selected" list.
> >   Consequently, you can't see their info after having selected them...
> 
> I do not understand this report.
> 
No surprise.. it's difficult to explain in words.. here's a screenshot:
  http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/bugs/Citation_dialog_not_showing_info.png
the bug is that no information is shown about the selected citation,  
Adachi:1995:SDF, in the info-area at the lower-left part of the dialog.

> > * The "Next" and "Previous" use M-n and M-p as shortcuts... being used to 
> >   Emacs, it would nice if C-s and C-r could be added as well. (This is a
> >   luxury, I know...)
> 
> Please explain how they work in emacs ('s' ?? 'r' ???)
>
I guess you've never used Emacs :-)   This is just about binding:
        C-s  to the same function that M-n is bound to,
        C-r  to the same function that M-p is bound to.
In Emacs, C-s and C-r are used to S_earch forward and backwards (R_everse)
Ok... so 's' and 'r' are that logical, but they're in my spine now :-)
 
> > * In the list of available citations, <Enter> adds a citation, but there 
> >   is no shortcut for removing a citation (from "Selected").
> >   How about adding shortcuts such as:
> >     <Ins>  = Add citation      (when used in "Avalable")
> >     <Del>  = Remove citation   (when used in "Selected")
> >     <Left> = Add citation      (when used in "Available")
> >     <Right> = Remove citation  (when used in "Selected")
> >   I think the <Left>/<Right> shortcuts would natural.
> 
> File on bugzilla, reasonable request but a bit more work.

done
> 
> This dialog needs an overhaul. I think Search stuff should move to a
> separate semi-modal dialog, this leaves more space. Of course, we should
> make sure that this is quickly accessible, for the  academic types.
>

As an academic with hundreds of references in my bib-files, I definitely 
want the search field easily accessible. However, comparing with Emacs 
again, I'd be perfectly happy with a search field that pops up when you 
type C-s (M-n) or C-r (M-p).

> I also don't like the two-list approach. It's confusing. I must admit,
> I'm having trouble thinking of another way, though.

I rather like it... do you mean that you're worried newbies would be 
confused? (or that it actually confuses you?)

> What *is* odd though, is why we have "selected" and *then* "available".
> It is surely more logical to have them the other way round horizontally.
> 
I'll try and flip the image horizontally, that'll probably be more logical 
(at least for us westerners who start reading at the top-left).
Then I'll file the overhaul-thing as a enhancement request.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37           http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Design        http://www.md.kth.se



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