On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, John Levon wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:45:16PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
>
> > > And everyone else would say this is because you have been hacking
> > > on LyX too long.
> >
> > If I set the XForms widget colours to the light green that KLyX used
> > to default to it looks very similar to that "modern" toolkit.
> >
> > So what am I missing?  (the "Feel" of the menus is bad.  Otherwise?)
>
> xforms restrictions have prevented us from improving the UI.
> The dialogs are buggy. The widgets are clunky. Keyboard navigability is awful.
> Resizing is broken. The widgets look awful, light green or not. Some widgets
> have no focus ability or highlighting. The textline chooser doesn't work
> with clicks properly. Radio buttons look like checkboxes. pop up menus
> feel icky. Tabs have known problems. No way to show disabled textboxes etc.
> latex preamble is broken in some versions. The default "ask" box has the
> buttons in a stupid order. Citation dialog has several problems. The file
> dialog is broken ... I could go on.

These are almost all "feel" complaints.  That doesn't mean they aren't
valid but they do alter what "ugly" is referring to.  Maybe my eyes
need testing but I don't see much difference between most XForms
widgets and their corresponding Qt or Gtk widgets.

> > particular widget that causes your optic nerve distress?  Any that
> > make you twitch uncontrollably?
>
> the checkboxes for one. ugly and unthemeable. and the menus. and the rest.

A checkbox is checkbox is a checkbox.  Whether it's a diamond or a
circle or a whatever.  I don't get this complaint at all.  So it looks
different to your favourite toolkits radio-button?  Should all
toolkits have radio buttons that look the same?

Allan. (ARRae)

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