On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hello,
Hello. [...] > therefore I am looking forward to see a GTK- or QT-version of lyx. I am very > happy about the GUI-I, but at the same time, it is progressing very slowly. To > my understanding > > - currently a large part is ported to GUI-I > - some parts are still xforms hardcoded, prohibiting to do something else than > xforms > - hard coding another GUI is not that difficult (at least I think to remember > that kLyX was build within a few days) ...by people who live and breathe Qt/KDE. See further below. > Therefore I am wondering, why not the few hard coded xforms parts are ported > to QT or GTK (I don't mind which one, both are probably ways better than > xforms) and the GUI-I QT or GTK is used for the rest. As GUII progresses people want to switch from hard-coded xforms to hard-coded Qt (GTK would be a waste of time at the moment because its dialogs don't even compile because that frontend has been unmaintained for some months). This gets more tempting as time goes by, however, we have working xforms code so switching to GUII xforms is actually fairly simple since we reuse a large part of the code -- just move it around and separate it out with some signals. What will anyone gain by switching to a different toolkit for the hard-coded sections of code? I'll tell you: bugs, and a broken lyx until the new hard-coding works. Then you still have to do the GUII work. After Matthias Ettrich complained about the progress of the GUII work I suggested he get a group together to rapidly port LyX to Qt in much the same fashion as you are suggesting. Given that Matthias is both the founder of the LyX project and KDE and works for Trolltech he shouldn't have had any problem getting a competent team together to do such a port. His response? Silence for the last twelve months. However, Kalle Dalheimer has been involved from time to time porting some of the Qt2 dialogs. Volunteers work on what they can when they can -- progress has actually been exceptionally fast in the last 12 months IMO. GUII porters have, however, reduced their work on the frontend to try to help fix bugs in the core and in particular in the insets hierarchy. In addition the goal for 1.2.0 was to get all the dialogs GUII for the xforms port -- as you will see from the GUII status page this has been achieved. I personally want to get 1.2.0 out ASAP but we have several major bugs to fix and they take priority over GUII and other new features IMHO. If you can provide us with bug reports (preferably including backtraces of crashes) we will do our best to fix them. Please remember to include full details in such reports including the version numbers of LyX, C++ library, C library, compiler, xforms, Xpm and OS. Allan. (ARRae)
