On 04/05/2018 06:40 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Finally, please tell me why it is not sufficient that expert users can
> read the release announcement to make certain MiKTeX settings if they
> like before they use the Win installer and why we should instead
> bother average users with a question that they cannot understand
> instead and risk that these average users will end up with an
> completely broken MiKTeX if they made the wrong decision in the dialog
> they could not understand?!

First, there is no way that WE can break anyone's MiKTeX if they abort
the install andwe don't do anything. If MiKTeX can be broken some other
way, that's a bug in MiKTeX and not one we should be trying to fix via
the LyX installer.

On the question at issue.....

Do people really read release announcements? I would be very
uncomfortable putting anything I regarded as even slightly important
just into a release announcement. Indeed,there are always tons of
questions on lyx-users after a new release that are answered inthe
release notes. So that seems like something close to proof that hardly
anyone reads them.

My real problemm, though, is that I simply do not understand why we
can't have a dialog at the very beginning of the installation process
that says something like this:

===================================================================
Due to recent changes in MiKTeX (which LyX uses to produce PDF
output), we will need to update your system to the latest version
X.XX of MiKTeX during the installation of LyX 2.3.0. Some expert
users, in particular those who use LaTeX outside of LyX, may wish to
upgrade MiKTeX ontheir own or not do the update at this time. For
most LyX users, however, this update needs to be done anyway, so for
most users (especially those who do not use LaTeX outside LyX) it is
both safe and appropriate to proceed with the installation.

If you would like more information before continuing, please see   
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX23OnWindows.

If you do not wish to upgrade MiKTeX at this time, then you should
cancel the installation now.Otherwise, let's go!

[CANCEL INSTALLATION]                    [PROCEED WITH INSTALLATION]
====================================================================

Presumably, we can pop this dialog only for people who already have
MiKTeX installed but who do not have the latest version.

Do you honestly think that is too confusing for average users? Is it
really too much trouble for us to create the mentioned page and let
people make an informed decision for themselves? The page itself could
direct people to lyx-users if they still aren't sure what to do. Sure,
it's a little more work, and some people may be a bit confused for a
while. But, to me, that is the price we pay to make sure that---to
continue JMarc's medical example---we abide by the principle "Primum non
nocere": First, Do No Harm [1].

Riki

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primum_non_nocere


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