On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Guenter Milde <mi...@users.sf.net> wrote: > On 2015-10-09, Liviu Andronic wrote: > > ... > >>>> Besides checking everything that may go wrong, remember that the >>>> second most important part of the job is to say "no"! And that's not >>>> the easiest part. > >>> Out of curiosity, what French typography dictates for a punctuation sign >>> after a double quote? Shouldn't it be inside the quotes? 8-) > >> Isn't this an English peculiarity? I can't remember seeing >> end-of-phrase punctuation marks within quotes in any other language... > > At least in German, the rule is: put the punctuation where it belongs -- > either the quote or the enclosing sentence. > > * The Duden says: "A complete sencentce is enclosed including the > punctuation." > > * Partial sentences or single words are quoted without punctuation. > > In the above example, it depends on the exact meaning: > > * to say "No!" -- shout/speak/write the imperative "No!". > Actually for me this has always been a very confusing---and I realize that this is a very small club---orthotypographic point: "Is it valid to write that he shouted "No!"?
Or "It is confusing whether it is valid to write that he shouted "No!". And in which language(s)? Liviu > * to say "no"! -- reject something (but maybe in this case the quotes > should be better left out alltogether). > > > Günter > -- Do you think you know what math is? http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02 Or what it means to be intelligent? http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30 Think again: http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library