Wilfried <wh...@gmx.de> writes: > stefano franchi wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Rainer M Krug <rai...@krugs.de> wrote: >> > stefano franchi <stefano.fran...@gmail.com> writes: >> > >> >> >> 2. Whether to target Microsoft's Word XML format or the Open Document >> >> Format (similarly XML-based) >> > >> > I would strongly argue for the Microsoft Word XML, as each conversion >> > creates problems and inconsistencies. This said, if the conversion from >> > MS Word XML to ODF and back can be done without causing problems in the >> > roundtrip (i.e. the round-trip would then be lyx - ODF XML - MS XML - >> > ODF XML - lyx)I would argue for the more "open" format which can be used >> > on more Operating systems. >> > >> >> I have been told that, in its most recent versions, Microsoft Word can >> read ODF version >= 1.2 directly. That is, it can open, >> edit, and save files in OpenOffice's native format. I have no means of >> checking this assertion, as I have no access to MS Word. >> Could anyone with such access give it a try? > > In principle, this is true. > However OO (I tested with Apache OO 4.01) cannot save in the latest Word > format (.docx), and saveing as MS .xml results in complete loss of the > equations.
This is not true for Libre Office (4.1.2.3) on ac - I just tried, and a small formula in LibreOffice, saved as .odt, then saved as .docx (Microsoft Office 2007/2010 XML) resulted in a docx which could be opened in Word 2011 and the equation was there. I=t could be edited and, when re-opened in LibreOffice, the edits were there. > Round trip is best if saving to Word 97/2000/2003 .doc > format. As far as I know, doc is a non documented binary format - so I would definitely not go there. > > Word supports 3 ways to write equations: > The oldest one is the EQ field function, which is easy to convert but > rarely used in practice. > The next is using the Equation Editor (standard for up to Word 2000) or > its mature brother MathType which both create MTEF objects. > The latest are Word 2007 and up equations (with a different object type > OMML). > And OpenOffice has its own equation editor which creates another object > type, which cannot be converted to any of Word's equation types, at > least not by Word nor by MathType (up to 6.7.a - current version is > 6.9). However, Mathtype can convert to and from MathML and LaTeX. > The newer Word equation object can only be converted to the older object > type by MathType (AFAIK). I can not comment on this. > > An OO document, containing an equation created in OO, saved as MS .doc > (Word 97/2000/2003) and opened in Word 2010 contains the equation but > this equation is not editable in Word - for editing this equation one > needs OpenOffice installed. At least after the round trip OO -> .doc -> > Word -> .doc -> OO the equation is still editable in OO. > And an equation created in Word is not editable in OO. Even worse, if > one uses the newer (Word 2007 and up) equation format (which is default > if one uses the .docx format), then saves as .doc, the newer equations > are irreversibly converted to pictures. > > Hope that makes the problems more clear. As I stated above, I could create a document =in Libre office, including equation, save it as docx, open it in Word 2011, edit the formula, save it, open the document in LibreOffice, edits were there, and I could continue editing there. May be differences between OpenOffice and LibreOffice? Cheers, Rainer -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug
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