Konrad Hofbauer wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Can you point to a program where _all_ document-level settings are in
File menu? We shall not over-interpret the HIG.
I do not have much to compare to by hand, only OO 2.3 and Word 2003.
Word 2003 has the Page Setup in File, OO has "Properties" in File.
Both of them don't have a Document menu. Both have (a Windows-HIG) Tools
menu.
What is the difference between file and document in the first place ???
A document may consist of several files. For example, the book where
each chapter is a file of its own. "Document settings" matter only for
the master document file, when you print/export the book. The chapter
files may have their own settings, but they are used only if you print
chapter files separately.
Also, don't forget the users who have had LyX as their main word
processor for a long time. It is the previous version of LyX that
matters for us. Not what word does, because we don't use or have word.
There are clearly many more word users in the world, but most of them
are not going to switch even if the menus match as closely as possible.
I am used to LyX, and for me, the "File" menu is where I find
file-related stuff common to all apps. I.e.
save/open/new/print/export/import. That's the place where I have to deal
with folders and disks. The "Document" menu is much more application
specific. Not all file-oriented apps deal with documents at all. Many
do, but in very different ways. This is where I go for layout options
like margins, page size and document-wide font setup. This is is where I
go for other document-related stuff, like change tracking.
Still - some change is ok with me, if it improves LyX. But not
just change for change's sake, or in order to follow some
principle to the letter. When following a rule strictly make things
worse, it just means the rule have (unstated or undiscovered) exceptions.
Maybe the "outline" toggle fits better on the view menu? Its use is very
much like the toolbar toggles.
Helge Hafting
