On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:

If I understand it correctly, the conflict is as follows:
* New users and normal users would benefit from a clean/simple sidebar
* Advanced users and developers would prefer a more complete sidebar
In addition, we already have the case when...
* Editors of the web site wants to modify pages...

i'm not sure about this distinction. do you think you need to be advanced user to have look on news in lyx 1.6 or report bug in bugzilla?

I think the sidebar entries for 'News' and 'Report bugs' should be there for new users as well. Currently the sidebar contains links to the following pages:

:                       Home Page ; Download ; News

Learn More:             About LyX ; Features; Screenshots

Support:                Mailing Lists ; Wiki / Documentation

Contribute:             Get Involved ; Development ; Bug Reports ;
                        Translation ; Donate

Development Status:     Road Map / News ; Latest Changes

i.e. it contains links to 16 pages, but there are over 30 pages... So maybe for some category of users that's different from 'new users', it would make sense to have a more advanced sidebar.

Simply put, I think it's not neccessary to make the sidebar a compromise in terms of what we put there, in order to create a good side for different kinds of users.

also its not only about this distinction. i'm used, while browsing via
opensource project webs, that there are some standard links available
on the left bar. between these are 'Download', 'Screenshots', 'Bugzilla',
'CVS/SVN/Mercurial/etc' sections and think it would be good to let
these shine and tried to change the sidebar accordingly.

I think that's good and basically agree with you. A minor differene is that I'd e.g. prefer 'Report bugs' rather than 'Bugzilla'. Btw, it's not clear to me from the current sidebar how I find information about the VCS.

i would even propose to change 'Visual Tour' to 'Screenshots' just for these reason even when our screenshot section contains much more (what would you think?)

I agree.

i would think that modes you propose bring unnecessary intricacy.

I'm fine either way. I might install it anyway, just to leave it as an option for the future, but that won't affect anything of what we have now.

/Christian
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