John Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

When I work on LyX I can at least say this: I am not doing this for
the benefit of LyX users, I do it because it is fun. _And_ it is not
fun writing inferiour C++ knowing that there is a better alternative.

It is absolutely possible to do something to support compilers in the
progress of moving to ANSI C++, but supporting compilers that don't
even try is just plain stupid.

| I am very much of the same opinion as Jean-Marc.  One of the reasons
| I'm even partially involved with LyX is that I only needed to download
| two tar files:  the source code itself and XForms.  Once I had XForms,
| all I needed were the source updates.
| 
| When I download source to try out a new program, there are N things
| that put me off:

We are not speaking of any program, we are speaking of a program
developed for fun on the sparetime of the developers.

| - I need to download/install multiple libraries that I've never heard
|   of before and seem to have no use to me otherwise.

Bogus point in this discussion. Besides if you want to use the program
in question you are expected to have the correct libs. 

| - It uses the newest, trendiest version of one or more standard
|   libraries, without regard to how stable those libs are.  I do not
|   appreciate being forced to put the stability of my existing apps at
|   risk for a new program.

Bogus point in this discussion.

| - It requires a cutting/bleeding edge compiler.  If it's not yet in
|   widespread use, I see no point in upgrading something.
|   Furthermore, I may not have root access on certain platforms, thus
|   preventing me from even being able to upgrade the compiler.

So how long did yo uwait until you began to write ANSI C?
If admins to not update their C++ compilers to more uptodate ones they
obviously does not want C++ programs to be developed or compiled on
their systems.

Should we only support platforms/users/developers that uses old non
ANSI C++ compilers? Where is the C++ community going?
Why is movement to ANSI C++ this slow? (read the above qouted answer
for the answer to the last question)

| I doubt I am the only one who feels this way.

I do think that this feeling is misguided.

        Lgb

PS. I am sorry but this discussion really puts me in a lousy mood, but
I want it to be fun writing C++ and to me that means ANSI C++. We have
a standard help push it.

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