Hello Craig and Brian,

On 9/17/20, Craig Sanders via luv-main <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 07:29:29PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
>> I realised that a computer where this just works has the latest Firefox
>> which I downloaded from the Firefox website (now 80.0.1). Instead of the
>> ESR
>> version supplied with Debian (68.11.0esr).
>
> 68.11.0esr is what's in testing, right?

Current up to date Debian 10 has Firefox ESR 68.12.0 and no problems
here. I have done very little customising, Also I do not invoke FF
from an editor, emacs, vi, vim or otherwise. Updates are no longer
through synaptic, because of Wayland, I su to root, then run apt-get
update, apt-get upgrade. There are security issues with sudo, but in
the right place, it can be a very valuable tool that I need to sort
out enabling.

> sid currently has 78.2.0esr
>
> maybe try that?
>
> or switch to firefox rather than firefox-esr.  I think testing currently
> has 79.0. sid has 80.0.1
>
>
> i used firefox-esr for a while until I had new versions of my plugins (or,
> at
> least, reasonable replacements for most of them), but i don't really see
> any
> point to firefox-esr now. It's moved past the version where xul plugins
> still
> worked, so it's just firefox but a few versions behind.
>
> craig
>
> ps: ewwww - upstream binaries. that's unhygienic.

Agreed, and it messes with the package management, which is one of the
things I most appreciate about Debian and derivatives. I have lived
through too much Microsoft dependency hell, and that the early RPM
required manually sorting dependencies and manually adding to the
command line.

> --
> craig sanders <[email protected]>

Regards,

Mark Trickett
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