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On 12/10/2014 4:59 PM, Timothy Rice wrote:
> I guess if the kernel becomes inextricably bound to systemd, then gentoo
> will be forced to switch. This would make gentoo less favourable as an
> alternative for people seeking to escape systemd, and might furthermore
> drive away existing gentoo users. I suppose all these people would switch
> to FreeBSD. Would that be so bad?

For Debian people, an easier migration path that seems very viable today
will be kFreeBSD -- and then if that goes seriously bad too, it is a
closer step to FreeBSD (at least a little bit closer).

This penned as possible news on kFreeBSD for upcoming publicity:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2014/10/msg00146.html
 - "GNU/kFreeBSD "bits", publicity, status report"
 - - following on thread of "kFreeBSD future"
      https://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2014/09/msg00280.html

In a nutshell:
  MATE, not gnome
  no systemd, freedesktop.org
  sysvinit, potentially OpenRC later
  consolekit patched
  90% compiled base
  very usable desktop (not just for servers)

I've got to specifically quote this small, but important /delicate/
section of Steven Chamberlain message:

<quote>
* (delicately!) mention init system, still being a hot topic
  - no udev or systemd here;  I guess that makes us a "traditional"
    Debian flavour, UNIX-like and POSIX-focused
  - we did lose GNOME (I think mainly due to logind, but also libgbm)
  - otherwise, we seem to have all we need;  Robert fixed up consolekit
  - we chose to keep sysvinit as default, but are in a position to
    easily use alternate init systems;  OpenRC looks promising for the
    future (perhaps usable already?);  I guess file-rc still works
</quote>


*Much* progress from Wheezy, very promising future.


A.

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