On 09/02/2013 02:00 PM, JM wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:10:08 -0500
> Erick Brunzell <lbsol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/02/2013 02:56 AM, JM wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 02:24:57 -0500
>>> however, Graphics are not related to DE, or to window managers, but depend 
>>> on the
>>> driver provided to work with Xorg.
>> That's not entirely true. That VIA P4M800 chip has never worked with
>> Compiz due to a lack of 3d rendering, so up through Precise Ubuntu would
>> always fall back to using the Metacity WM. The same was true of GNOME 3
>> until they dropped the fallback-session entirely. But Metacity is going
>> to be maintained by Edubuntu for their LTSP installs.
> 3D: the driver does not provide 3D for this chipset. The Compiz window 
> manager not being
> supported is a consequence not a cause, as it depends on 3D to work.
>
>
> (...)
>>> It seems according to your report that only the progress bar is a problem 
>>> to you. And
>>> you can't start X from the recovery mode of course, it's an init mode which 
>>> is too
>>> low for that. 
>>>
>>> If it is only the progress bar which bothers you: the progress bar does not 
>>> matter.
>>> You can hit a key before booting (it might be F6, look at the lower part of 
>>> the
>>> screen to check) and replace "quiet splash" in the kernel command line with
>>> "noquiet" (leave the '--' at the end of the line) and you will have a text 
>>> mode boot
>>> instead. Or just ignore what the progress bar looks like and go do 
>>> something else by
>>> the time the system finishes the boot?
>> One thing has changed between Alpha 2 and now. Rather than a frozen
>> progress bar, I now boot the live image directly to a blank screen.
>> Server installs seem to work OK, as does booting in "text" mode. I'll
>> try the "noquiet" option rather than "text" and see what happens.
> Ok, let's see how it goes.
>
>
>> Oh, one thing I tried with Alpha 2 to help rule out a kernel problem was
>> upgrading from Raring to Saucy and then booting the old Raring kernel
>> which was still a no-go. Since it effects both the live image and
>> installed images I believe I should be able to collect info if an Xorg
>> dev tells me what to do, and what to look for.
> I am not a dev, but if I can help with ideas where to look at:
>
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
> /var/log/dmesg (just after a boot, if you can access a tty, cd to /var/log 
> and pastebin
> the dmesg file to get a copy to a pastebin page on the web)
>
> /var/log/syslog 
>
> All three can be pastebined if you have installed pastebinit (unless it is 
> already in the
> distro?)
>
> Regards,
> Mélodie

But my greatest worry now is the lack of activity on the list :^(

It's unusual to find things this silent right before an important milestone.

If we've lost some (more) of our core testers then we're in trouble.

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