> On Nov 16, 2021, at 10:36 PM, Aijun Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > The followings are the responses for the comments on PUAM > draft(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-08) > > Les: The comment I want to make, I think the discussion on the > list highlighted the fact that there's an open question, > independent of whether we use the prefix unreachable > draft or the Event Notification draft, as to whether this > problem should be solved by the IGP or whether it should be > solved by BGP, or in some other way. And I think the logical > way to proceed on this is to get the consensus of the working > group as to whether an IGP solution is desired first, then > after we reach consensus on that, then we can start talking > about which approach is the better approach. Which one > should be adopted? > 【WAJ】The problem is occurred due to the summary action by the ABR router in > IGP, it should be solved by IGP itself. > As discussed earlier on the list, the possible use case is not limited to BGP > fast convergence. > Based on the above considerations, it is not appropriated solved via BGP. > > Chris H: Chair hat on. You've been asking for adoption for a while. > The event notification draft is new. I agree with Les that > in a perfect world that would be the case, but asking for > adoption is one way to answer the question. It may be not > the perfect way to answer that question, but it is one way. > I agree without my chair hat on, I'm not sure we need this, > but it's not for me to say by fiat. Acee did put something > out on the list to try to engage people again. And I don't > think a lot got said. > 【WAJ】we have several round discussions for this topic but there is always no > conclusion at the end. > Can the expert that reluctant to accept the new idea to give some > specific questions/problems for the current solution? > Or else it is not helpful for the solve of the existing problem. > Initiate the adoption call maybe the best way to let the experts > express their opinions? > We would like to hear the specific and detail comments for the current > solutions, not just general comments. > > Acee: I didn't see much support other than from the authors. I > saw one non-author support on the event notification. > 【WAJ】Does anyone not agree what we analyze/summarize at the presentation > material for the two solutions? > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/materials/slides-112-lsr-05-puam-stublink-00.pdf, > the 5th slide) > > Chris: Everyone has a right to ask for an adoption. Everyone has a > right to say we shouldn't adopt this and there are the > reasons. We've let people to express opinions, without > seeing a lot of negative opinions it's hard not to just grant > the adoption call. > 【WAJ】I agree. > > Tony P: I think this is all making a trash can out of the IGP. One > possible solution is to ban or encouraged maybe everyone with > these kind of suggestions to go towards the service instance > stuff or whatever we call it, which I think is a good idea. > Just run a power line up and much lower priority. Don't trash > the main protocol that holds the whole thing together. > 【WAJ】Do you consider the deployment complexity for independent service > instance to transfer such thing? And also the interaction on the device among > the main IGP instance and the service instances? It’s the fault of the main > protocol, and should be solved by the main protocol. > > Chris: Great comment for the adoption call. As a WG member, I agree.
This makes it seem like I'm saying that I agree with your response. I'd strike that "As a WG member, I agree". Thanks, Chris. > > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Acee Lindem > (acee) > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 2:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Lsr] IETF 112 LSR Meeting Minutes > > The IETF 112 LSR Meeting Minutes have been uploaded. Thanks to Yingzhen Qu > for taking them!!! > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/materials/minutes-112-lsr-00 > > The IETF 112 LSR Meeting MeetEcho recording is available here: > > https://play.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/?session=IETF112-LSR-20211111-1200 > > Thanks, > Acee _______________________________________________ Lsr mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr
