Hi Mike, 

On 11/16/21, 4:42 PM, "Mike Fox" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thank you for the update Acee.  If I am required to make the change before 
    the RFC gets updated (which sounds like it could be a while) I'd like to 
    pick terms that are likely to line up with what it eventually changes to 
    but at this point I'd be guessing.  The usual suggested substitutions 
    along the lines of manager/worker don't seem to work well considering how 
    the database exchange works, so I'm thinking if it's up to me I change it 
    to speaker/responder but I'd like to get feedback on the terms others are 
    using.. if any other OSPF products have tackled this already I'd be 
    curious what terms they adopted. 

If I interpret it correctly, the Knodel draft suggests "primary/secondary".  
However, this is not an RFC yet. 

Thanks,
Acee


    Mike
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    From:   "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[email protected]>
    To:     "Mike Fox" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
    Date:   11/16/2021 04:10 PM
    Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [Lsr] Issues with master/slave terminology 
    in OSPF



    The IETF is already applying these standards to new documents. 

    https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-knodel-terminology-07.txt 


    At some point, I'd expect that someone with the time and energy will 
    produce a single document that updates all the existing documents using 
    the updated terminology. At least that would be my preference since doing 
    BIS versions of all these documents is not desirable unless this is being 
    done for other purposes. For example, it would not make sense to do an RFC 
    2328 BIS unless we were going to also correct all the Errata and go 
    through a full review cycle. 

    Thanks,
    Acee

    On 11/16/21, 3:55 PM, "Lsr on behalf of Mike Fox" <[email protected] 
    on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

        Many companies in the industry including mine are undergoing 
    initiatives 
        to replace offensive terminology in IT.  One of the targeted terms is 
        master/slave, which is used in OSPF database exchange and the terms 
    appear 
        in various documentation and displays for our OSPF routing daemon. I'm 

        still waiting on guidance on whether or not  industry-standard terms 
    get a 
        pass, but it's not looking good.  Has anyone else encountered this 
    issue 
        and if so how have you handled it? If I'm going to need to change to 
        terminology that does not match the RFC I'd like to be consistent with 

        what others are doing. 

        Thank you,
        Mike

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