On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Alan Bell <alanb...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> On 30/06/11 17:48, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >>> >>> OK, So, let's clarify and get back on track: >> >> good idea >>> >>> Who's got more to add to this? >>> -Paul >>! >> me! >> >> ok, so that is some objections and some solutions, what I was missing was >> the problem. After making a complete and utter idiot of myself whilst trying >> to find out what the problem was I now think I do understand it better. >> It *isn't* just about un-uglifying http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ because >> even if that was perfectly sorted it would still look like an ugly huge page >> of links to read. >> It *isn't* about an obsessive compulsive need to rename everything in line >> with ISO 3166-1-alpha-2 country code elements (although I would totally >> sympathize if it was, hence me being rather pedantic about "UK" vs "GB") >> It *is* about helping people new to Ubuntu to find their local team. >> >> I didn't get this until I read the UDS session notes here: >> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/community-o-loco-directory/ >> and listened to the audio of the two sessions here: >> http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/2011-05-09-09-55-community-o-loco-directory.ogg >> http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/2011-05-10-09-55-community-o-loco-portal.ogg >> >> As an aside, there are a few different use-cases for loco.ubuntu.com that I >> didn't know about before listening. I originally thought it was just >> supposed to be a series of microsites for the LoCo teams, and I didn't think >> it did this particularly well because I kept ending up on global lists of >> events and meetings, I was always accidentally "escaping" from the team I >> was on. However some people really do want to browse it and see events and >> stuff going on everywhere in the world, this is totally cool, I just never >> realised that was the point. The new "my teams" page >> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/me goes a long way to improve my "microsite" >> use-case for the system. >> >> So the point of this exercise is to allow better navigation to "your" LoCo >> team from a starting point of *not* knowing what it is called and there are >> exceptions and complications all over the place which make that harder than >> it sounds. I don't know who organised the planet into countries, but they >> didn't do a very good job of it. >> >> I think the map on the home page of loco.ubuntu.com is a great start, it >> allows you to visually select where you are in the world, but then it falls >> down as it just links to an anchor on the big /teams page and doesn't really >> filter out any of the stuff I don't want to see, furthermore it basically >> dumps me at a list of 46 teams in Europe to trawl through, what I want it to >> do is give me a map of my continent, then I click my country and it tells me >> what is going on there. Having the 46 teams in a slightly more logical order >> (ISO codes are not massively intuitive) really won't make a heap of >> difference, I still want a map. >> >> Making 5 clickable maps that shows 152 teams in the right countries and >> maintaining it could be quite a bit of work, but in the words of Bob the >> Builder and Barak Obama "We can do it!" >> >> I have been messing about with a prototype here >> http://libertus.co.uk:8000/europe/ (running on my laptop at the wrong end of >> an ADSL line so it will seem slow - and might be turned off) >> It uses an SVG map from wikimedia commons which has all the country objects >> with the id matching the ISO code (except it uses "uk" when it should use >> "gb" technically . . .) I hacked together some code that displays a popup >> window with some HTML for the country listing the relevant teams, which >> might include nearby teams or language specialist teams as appropriate to >> the local situation. >> >> The thing is a bit hard coded and experimental at the moment (view source or >> grab lp:~alanbell/loco-directory/maps to see how it works) I need to add a >> field for the ISO country code to the country object in the loco directory >> to get this generating the per-country information directly from the >> database. The thing would need a full list of the teams below the map for >> accessibility reasons and those using browsers that don't do SVG (I have no >> idea if it works in Internet Explorer). >> >> I think there are probably maps on wikimedia commons appropriate to the >> other continents, (please go find them) I am going to focus on getting >> Europe near-perfect, if other people want to join in, especially to fix the >> rest of the world then lets collaborate on it in the #ubuntu-website channel >> on freenode. >> >> Even if we can make this work it doesn't mean that tidying up the LoCo names >> is a bad idea in itself, there is a lot of inconsistency there and >> consistency is good. I just think this is a more useful way of solving the >> underlying problem that has been identified. >> >> Alan. > > +1 Alan! A picture is worth a thousand words, no matter how they are sorted. > > Valorie, Ubuntu-US-WA team > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >
Sorry on the lag from me on this, I've been relaxing :) I think this is a great showing of how I imagined the RFC / LEP working out. I think right now, that's looking pretty darn great. Any LD folks want to comment on this? -Paul -- All programmers are playwrights, and all computers are lousy actors. #define sizeof(x) rand() :wq -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
