On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 17:25 -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Proposed-By: Paul Tagliamonte <paul...@ubuntu.com>;
>   LoCo Council <loco-coun...@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Scope: All LoCo Teams, Worldwide
> Status: Draft
> Rational: loco.ubuntu.com looks inconsistent and sloppy
> 
> Howdy, LoCo Contacts,
> 
> The LoCo Council has drafted up a proposal to standardize the display
> name of all LoCo teams to help un-uglyfy the LoCo Directory team
> list[1].
> 
> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/

First let me say that I fully support the development of a respectful
and logically consistent way to name LoCo teams. I am positive that as a
group we can arrive at such a solution. Given that I do see some issues
with the current suggestion put forth in the original email.

I would recommend including the use of the word 'state' for US States
because this will help avoid conflicts such as:

New York (the City) vs. New York (the state)
Washington (the City) and Washington (the state)
Kansas (the city) and (Kansas (the state)
Iowa (the City) and Iowa (the state)

I know in my state that there are some folks (not me) that have a rather
adverse reaction to simply using New York due to the fact people usually
take that to mean from New York City. For my part it makes no difference
to me, but I have no desire to offend people from New York State. I am
not sure if people with other name conflicts feel the same way about
their named pair. My sense is that we should respect these possibilities
and out of respect adopt a naming convention that does not cause such
possible reactions.

As an example of the historic tensions in my state I advert your
attention to the wiki article on Secession in New York -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_New_York

When this issue was raised with my state I sent an email to the list
asking folks about it and received seven responses here are two of the
comments that are examples of some of the tensions.

"I think dropping the State would alter the way the group is perceived
to the determent of the group."

"I live on Long Island and I feel like upstate NY is a completely
different state than the city or island."

---- suggestion ----
Allow the loco team to choose the name of their 'region'; which allows
for New York State, Washington State, etc.

---- clarification requested ----
Will previously grandfathered city locos be disbanded? (Chicago, Dallas,
Vancouver)

Thanks,
Charles



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