Hi Luis,
Yes, this is excellent material.
I'm happy to provide some feedback on the semantics of your content a
bit later.
But first I think we should plan a long term strategy for how OGC
standards are developed and published, and refine our ground rules.
Maybe something like a MoU.
What is OGC's schedule? Does it fit with the OSGeo-Live schedule? What
should be included in the next release?
Scott's comment earlier was "some things to review shortly after the New
Year". So we would need a bit more insight before we expand on that.
What will be our development model. Who will be allowed/encouraged to
edit docs? Do you want to try and tap into the OSGeo community to create
content? If so, we should publish a "Howto contribute", along with a
template for standards.
Do we want to publish our material to wikipedia or other sources?
We should try to avoid multiple points of truth. I'd imagine that the
OGC would maintain a point of truth, which then gets incorporated into
OSGeo-Live.
OSGeo-Live docs get translated into 10+ languages by the OSGeo-Live
community. Does the OGC wish to take advantage of this? If so, we should
work out the process.
The documents you mention are referencing an external WMS Server. This
introduces potential obsolescence issues, such as if the server changes
of goes down in a year or two. OSGeo-Live also has WMS Servers, with
sample data. This could potentially be used as reference source. (Note,
we'd need to think through security of OSGeo Live if publishing to the web)
We have the potential to create an OGC training course, all self
contained on the OSGeo-Live VM, with overviews, exercises and sample
data. It would involve tweaking your existing docs, matching with web
services and data already on OSGeo-Live. Is this a goal you would wish
to pursue?
On 3/12/2015 2:11 am, Luis Bermudez wrote:
Hi Cameron
We also have some material that you might consider including in the
OSGeo-Live DVD available at the OGC E-Learning repository. The
standards in the repository have a main page that provides an
introduction to the standard. See for example:
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https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/kml/text/basic-main.rst
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https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/csw/text/main.rst
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https://github.com/opengeospatial/e-learning/blob/master/source/wms/text/basic-main.rst
You can see our deployment here:
http://cite.opengeospatial.org/pub/cite/files/edu/index.html
As always your comments are much welcomed.
Best Regards
Luis Bermudez, Ph.D.
Executive Director Compliance and E-Learning
Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)
Skype: bermudez_luis
Twitter: @berdez
Tel: +1 301 760 7323
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bermudez
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On Dec 1, 2015, at 5:39 AM, Scott Simmons <ssimm...@opengeospatial.org
<mailto:ssimm...@opengeospatial.org>> wrote:
Hi Cameron,
Not quite at the hint point yet… but I expect that we will have some
things to review shortly after the New Year.
Best Regards,
Scott
On Dec 1, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Scott,
Thanks for providing some hints at what is coming.
Are you in a position yet to share plans about your schedule and at
what point you would be looking for feedback?
Warm regards, Cameron
On 1/12/2015 12:27 pm, Scott Simmons wrote:
Dear Cameron,
Thanks for attending the Sydney GeoRabble last night and paying
attention to my talk! As I noted last night, the OGC Membership
will continue to develop Standards according to our process and the
normative publications will remain in a format that is most
compatible with the requirements of our members and alliance
partners. However, we are working toward one or more alternative
publication “styles” and auxiliary material to assist the broad
developer community with implementation of OGC Standards.
We appreciate the offer of including such an alternative
publication style in the OSGeo-Live DVD. Given the need to ensure
that our documentation directly references OGC and dependent
normative resources, it is not practical at this stage to connect
the development of the documents to the upcoming OSGeo-Live
release. We are happy to discuss at a later stage how we might
coordinate as our process matures. In the meantime, we encourage
OSGeo and all our partners to provide feedback to us as we release
these new formats.
Good seeing you last night.
Best Regards,
Scott
Scott Simmons
Executive Director, Standards Program
Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)
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The OGC: Making Location Count…
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On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:08 AM, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The OGC Technical Committee technical meeting started today, and I
had the great pleasure in meeting many people face-to-face, whom I
previously only knew by email address, as well as catch up with
many I hadn't seen for years.
Of relevance to this thread was that Scott Simmons presented on
his hopes to make OGC standards much more readable and usable.
Scott,
As mentioned, I'm keen to see the OGC documentation to dove-tail
with OSGeo-Live documentation.
In particular, I suggest that the OGC might want to consider using
a similar development process to OSGeo-Live, writing a template,
then inviting the community to help write the documentation, then
applying a review cycle, then offering the docs to be translated.
Community building process is described here:
http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html
Our documentation writing process is here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation
Docs here:
http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html
Presentation:
http://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/
We are in the process of defining what will be included for
OSGeo-Live 9.5.
Maybe for this release we can aim to get one exemplar standard
written up, possibly more, which can then be reviewed and refined
for future releases, and used as a template for other standards.
Warm regards,
Cameron Shorter
On 23/11/2015 6:18 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
We are starting the build cycle for version 9.5 of the OSGeo-Live
[1] DVD/USB/VM which will be released in March 2016, ready for
several special events, including FOSS4G-NA, FOSSGIS (Salzburg,
Austria), among others.
We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add translations, or
anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.
Key Milestones
11 Jan 2016 All new applications installed, most old applications
updated
01 Feb 2016 Feature Freeze (all apps updated)
15 Feb 2016 User Acceptance Test (all apps installed and working)
21 Mar 2016 Final ISO sent to printers
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geospatial software without installing anything.
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