Jim, do you read User Friendly?  The arc about putting Sid in the Home for 
Obsolete Programmers, in particular?  ;-)

But, yeah, having spent my early career in narrowband (serial of all shapes and 
sizes and speeds) it's a nightmare of incompatible connectors and protocols.
USB is freaking awesome in comparison.

-Adam

On February 27, 2015 2:16:14 PM CST, Jim Thompson <j...@netgate.com> wrote:
>Let me know when you want to hear the story of a paper tape reader, a
>pick and place machine, and “speed select” (pin 23 on a DB-25 wired for
>EIA RS-232-C)
>
>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Sean <m...@thegeekclub.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You also need a real NULL modem cable.  Actually there's probably
>nothing wrong with your USB to Serial.
>> The blue Cisco cables are rollover cables.  They are not NULL modem
>cables.  Welcome to serial cable pinout hell.  ;-)
>> Some of us have been here a long time.  I'm no expert but i've got 3
>different serial cables and converters in my toolbag having learned the
>hard way the variety of devices and requirements.
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jeremy Bennett
><jbenn...@hikitechnology.com <mailto:jbenn...@hikitechnology.com>>
>wrote:
>> Thank you all for the suggestions. I put my own alix router in place
>for my client, and now that I have a little time, will go ahead and
>purchase a non-prolific USB to serial adapter, and the associated
>accessories. 
>> 
>> I have gotten into the habit of buying prebuilt Alix systems, and
>that has spoiled me.
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Volker Kuhlmann
><hid...@paradise.net.nz <mailto:hid...@paradise.net.nz>> wrote:
>> On Thu 26 Feb 2015 07:19:04 NZDT +1300, Jim Pingle wrote:
>> 
>> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AHYJWWG
><http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AHYJWWG>
>> 
>> Yes useful for many occasions.
>> However as a first step having a two bucks gender bender and trying
>with
>> and without will put the straight/null issue to rest. You'll still
>need
>> if if the flashing gadget indicates as such. Smaller/cheaper than
>having
>> two different cables too.
>> 
>> > FTDI chip, too.
>> 
>> Or what the Chinese make of that ;-)
>> 
>> Volker
>> 
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